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Re: Uses for an immovable rod
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2010, 11:19:05 PM »
how many immovable rods does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop?

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Re: Uses for an immovable rod
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2010, 12:41:47 AM »
3?

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Re: Uses for an immovable rod
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2010, 12:42:49 AM »
how many immovable rods does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop?
[(pi)r]^2 / 4?
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Re: Uses for an immovable rod
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2010, 11:04:32 AM »
again a useful distraction for physics majors

how many immovable rods does it take to hold up a fortress?

One for every 5000 pounds of weight (including occupants at mass capacity)

You guys don't know your physics very well. If you build a cube platform from immovable rods and then place immovable rods at 45 degree angles on the sides of the cubes, you can build a structure that would hold immeasurably more weight that the combined maximum endurance weight of the rods.

I think you're assuming that immovable rods would brace against whatever they brace against in the the same way that physical supports would brace against the earth. In that case you would apply all the downward force to the central platform, which would exert it against the ground, effectively removing it. In this case there's still the issue that all the mass is being supported by the magical energy of the rods, regardless of how the downward force is distributed against various elements of the construction.

Perhaps a good analogy to an actual physical construction would be if we thought of the building as hanging by a cable that can support exactly 5000*n pounds before breaking. (n being the number of rods used in the construction) It doesn't matter how we build the attachment point for the cable, it will still snap if the building weighs more than it can support.

The setup you described it very useful, however, since it reduces the chances the building would become unbalanced and helps make it more structurally sound. It would distribute any unbalanced weight (from, say, a visiting dragon) onto the central platform so all the supporting rods would bear a fraction of the added weight.
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Re: Uses for an immovable rod
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2010, 02:32:35 PM »
You guys are killing this...

This is why I hate physics majors...

Also, I propose to change the name of the rod to "The really hard to move rod."

Also, for your castle construction, why wouldn't you just use permanent walls of force? They don't have a weight restriction and also have a much larger surface area (so it would in effect be cheaper).

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Re: Uses for an immovable rod
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2010, 02:47:57 PM »
You guys are killing this...

This is why I hate physics majors...

I'm not a physics major.
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Re: Uses for an immovable rod
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2010, 03:05:51 PM »
You guys are killing this...

Hey, do didn't say good uses for an immovable rod.

Bungie jumping with a HALO lead up. Have somebody with Overland Flight (or any friendly high altitude flier) give you a lift and leap off with your stupidly long bungie cord tied to a Rod. Active the rod in middle air and enjoy the ride.

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Re: Uses for an immovable rod
« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2010, 09:24:29 AM »
Why am I picturing a stealth insertion into the enemy fortress by a bunch of PC's via rod-drop? Nobody ever thinks someone will climb down to their mountain fortress...

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Re: Uses for an immovable rod
« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2010, 11:04:56 AM »
Why am I picturing a stealth insertion into the enemy fortress by a bunch of PC's via rod-drop? Nobody ever thinks someone will climb down to their mountain fortress...

I do... that's why all of my fortresses have a roof covered in anti-magic shells. It's expensive, but you can't skimp on quality.
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Re: Uses for an immovable rod
« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2010, 11:31:25 AM »
I do... that's why all of my fortresses have a roof covered in anti-magic shells. It's expensive, but you can't skimp on quality.

Which is why the bungie-rod idea is so brilliant.

Hit the rod above the anti-magic, bungie to the ground, cut the line at the exact moment of maximum desending tension, and your in. You have no way out but your in.

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Re: Uses for an immovable rod
« Reply #40 on: April 09, 2010, 12:56:03 PM »
I do... that's why all of my fortresses have a roof covered in anti-magic shells. It's expensive, but you can't skimp on quality.

Which is why the bungie-rod idea is so brilliant.

Hit the rod above the anti-magic, bungie to the ground, cut the line at the exact moment of maximum desending tension, and your in. You have no way out but your in.

You haven't watched enough Bond movies. You never need an plan. You just egress.
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Re: Uses for an immovable rod
« Reply #41 on: April 09, 2010, 01:03:09 PM »
I do... that's why all of my fortresses have a roof covered in anti-magic shells. It's expensive, but you can't skimp on quality.

Which is why the bungie-rod idea is so brilliant.

Hit the rod above the anti-magic, bungie to the ground, cut the line at the exact moment of maximum desending tension, and your in. You have no way out but your in.

You haven't watched enough Bond movies. You never need an plan. You just egress.

The plan in bond movies is usually "make the building not exist". With explosions.

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Re: Uses for an immovable rod
« Reply #42 on: April 09, 2010, 01:07:34 PM »
I do... that's why all of my fortresses have a roof covered in anti-magic shells. It's expensive, but you can't skimp on quality.

Which is why the bungie-rod idea is so brilliant.

Hit the rod above the anti-magic, bungie to the ground, cut the line at the exact moment of maximum desending tension, and your in. You have no way out but your in.

You haven't watched enough Bond movies. You never need an plan. You just egress.

The plan in bond movies is usually "make the building not exist". With explosions.

But you must still egress before you can blow the building.
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Re: Uses for an immovable rod
« Reply #43 on: April 09, 2010, 01:39:42 PM »
You haven't seen enough bond movies. You can just walk away slowly from the building and as long as you don't look back you'll be fine.
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Re: Uses for an immovable rod
« Reply #44 on: April 09, 2010, 01:57:42 PM »
You haven't seen enough bond movies. You can just walk away slowly from the building and as long as you don't look back you'll be fine.

But only if your on your way to have sex with somebody. It's similiar to the Captain Kirk defense.