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: Dungeon Master Justice
: Tadanori Oyama April 17, 2009, 01:48:19 PM
I'm a big believer in teaching players lessons for their character's behavior.

I'm coming up on my next 4E session where the fate of a PC who assaulted a group of city guards will be announced by his jury. I would like for the player to learn a bit of an in game lesson and simple imprisonment seems a poor way to do so because 1) they others might break him out or 2) he'll make a new character and act the same way.

Does anyone have any creative punishments for players who violate the law?
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: clockworkjoe April 17, 2009, 02:50:02 PM
branding
public shaming
exile
paying fines or blood money
forced labor
sent to penal colony
made a test subject for experimentation
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: Maze April 17, 2009, 03:33:14 PM
I'd personally go with branding if I had to. Some sort of magical fucking tattoo that is hard to conceal and shows that you are (or have been) a criminal. Exile is only good if there's some reason for the players to stay in the city instead of simply wandering adventurers style.
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: Dawnsteel April 17, 2009, 03:39:49 PM
Mark of Justice (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/markofjustice.htm)?  Something like that, anyhow.
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: Maze April 17, 2009, 03:43:49 PM
Mark of Justice (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/markofjustice.htm)?  Something like that, anyhow.

Yiss, make it 5 level higher than the players so it'll take some work to remove.
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: Mason April 17, 2009, 03:54:33 PM
yeash, A nice magical forehead branding is a good idea. really its hard to make players feel responsible for their in game actions. the gamers I play with play games to escape reality to shug off responsiblity for a couple hours.

another back up idea is to invoke the social contract with them.
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: clockworkjoe April 17, 2009, 04:17:26 PM
was reading the wiki entry on totem poles and found this:

Shame poles

Poles used for public ridicule are usually called "shame poles", and were erected to shame individuals or groups for unpaid debts. Shame poles are today rarely discussed, and their meanings have in many places been forgotten. However, they formed an important subset of poles carved throughout the 19th century.

One famous shame pole is the Lincoln Pole in Saxman, Alaska; it was apparently created to shame the U.S. government into repaying the Tlingit people for the value of slaves which were freed after the Emancipation Proclamation. Other explanations for it have arisen as the original reason was forgotten or suppressed, however this meaning is still clearly recounted by a number of Tlingit elders today.
A totem in downtown Colorado Springs, Colorado.

Another example of the shame pole is the Three Frogs Pole in Wrangell, Alaska. This pole was erected by Chief Shakes to shame the Kiks.ádi clan into repaying a debt incurred by three of their slaves who impregnated some young women in Shakes's clan. When the Kiks.ádi leaders refused to pay support for the illegitimate children Shakes had the pole commissioned to represent the three slaves as frogs, the frog being the primary crest of the Kiks.ádi clan. This debt was never repaid, and thus the pole still stands next to the Chief Shakes Tribal House in Wrangell. This particular pole's unique crossbar shape has become popularly associated with the town of Wrangell. It was thus used, without recognizing the meaning of the pole, as part of the title design of the Wrangell Sentinel newspaper, where it is still seen today.

A shame pole was erected in Cordova, Alaska on March 24, 2007. It includes the inverted and distorted face of Exxon ex-CEO Lee Raymond, representing the unpaid debt that courts determined Exxon owes for having caused the oil spill in Valdez, Alaska. See the Anchorage Daily News article on the pole's unveiling
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: dragonshaos April 17, 2009, 04:23:15 PM
Have him be sold into slavery and have him work on remodeling dungeons!  And then it collapses, forcing him to work with the other slaves... blah blah blah... blah blah...blah...and then blah.
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: Tadanori Oyama April 17, 2009, 04:53:50 PM
I think I like the shame pole best so far. I'll have a shaman do it so the totem will follow him around. Or better yet, a curse so that one appears wherever he goes and stays there so there's always new ones.
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: Maze April 17, 2009, 04:55:11 PM
Two words:

      BEE          RAPE
(http://english.people.com.cn/200604/17/images/bee.jpg)(http://www.bbrianblair.com/gallery/kb/pic48bees.jpg)
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: Tadanori Oyama April 17, 2009, 04:58:23 PM
I was waiting for it. Didn't think it would be you to say it.
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: Setherick April 17, 2009, 05:08:40 PM
I was waiting for it. Didn't think it would be you to say it.

Cody should be out of school by now too...
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: Boyos April 17, 2009, 05:26:37 PM
I like this mark of shame thing.
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: rayner23 April 17, 2009, 10:42:31 PM
Two words:

      BEE          RAPE
(http://english.people.com.cn/200604/17/images/bee.jpg)(http://www.bbrianblair.com/gallery/kb/pic48bees.jpg)

You are a God sir. I planned to say the exact same thing.
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: Mason April 18, 2009, 11:31:46 PM
man Alaska sure loves there shame poles.
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: wrotenbe April 19, 2009, 03:03:59 AM
Castration! DOUBLE CASTRATION!
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: Setherick April 19, 2009, 09:58:06 AM
Castration! DOUBLE CASTRATION!

Typically when you castrate someone you take both testicles. So what's double castration? You castrate the PC and his buddy simultaneously? You make them castrate each other? I MUST KNOW!
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: rayner23 April 19, 2009, 10:33:21 AM
Castration! DOUBLE CASTRATION!

Why not triple?
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: Mason April 19, 2009, 12:28:05 PM
its where you tie them to a chair naked without a seat, casino royal style. after you've lined him up with his buddies you take one of those big Arab guys with a scimitar and have him take one big swing under the seats. we call it "pearl hunting", its like baseball. if you can castrate one guy with one swing its first base, two guys one swing second base, but if you can get all four it counts as a home run then every set you lop off while still maintaining your swing counts as a run. you only play three rounds. who ever has the most runs, wins.
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: rayner23 April 19, 2009, 01:04:17 PM
I thought pearl hunting was when you jack off at the bottom of a swimming pool and then swim up and grab all of the cum so ovulating girls wouldn't get pregnant in your pool. That might be called "pearl diving" though.

Thanks Chuck Palahniuk for being the sick bastard who taught me that one!
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: Setherick April 19, 2009, 01:06:05 PM
I thought pearl hunting was when you jack off at the bottom of a swimming pool and then swim up and grab all of the cum so ovulating girls wouldn't get pregnant in your pool. That might be called "pearl diving" though.

Thanks Chuck Palahniuk for being the sick bastard who taught me that one!

I love the story "Guts."