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General Category => RPGs => : Flawless P September 16, 2010, 07:24:32 PM
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My friend has been looking for a Stargate themed RPG. I did some research and came upon one made in 1998 and one in 2003.
The 2003 game is based off of the Spycraft system, so my question is: Is Spycraft a good system, or would the series benefit more from something like GURPS?
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Never played spycraft, but I heard good things about it - it's supposed to be better than d20 modern for cinematic modern games.
Of course, GURPS is always the best answer if you don't mind spending the time to learn the system
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I like Spycraft too. I wish I could have played more of it.
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Never played spycraft, but I heard good things about it - it's supposed to be better than d20 modern for cinematic modern games.
Of course, GURPS is always the best answer if you don't mind spending the time to learn the system
In that vein, Risus (http://www222.pair.com/sjohn/risus.htm) is the best answer if you don't want to really learn a system or pay money (because we all get our books legitimately, right?).
Edit- Just realized this post didn't answer anything the OP asked. Whatever it's 3am.
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I have the GURPS books I did look it over quite a bit but I think this is one of those instances where I actually need a char gen program.
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I actually own the Stargate books, got them at a convension long with an interesting anecdote about a ferangi quartermaster in a Trek RPG he played. I never got to play it, but it is an interesting system, more detailed and thought out then d20 modern. One of trhe books also has rules for being a system lord, recuiting a jaffa army, building a space fleet, ect. There's also ship combat rules but they kinda suck. Also lots of background material up to the 3rd season, I think, or 5th, and pregens for all the major chars, even Thor, and some generic ones if I remember. It's very well suited to the DnD mechanics the show uses... those poor lvl1 marines... That said, GURPS, its awesome. Except everyone I know is refuses to play it because they're too rooted in d20, and I was admittedly a little hungover when I tried to run it.
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As odd as this may be for a suggestion, you may want to check out the core mechanics for the Albedo RPG. If you ignore the furry overlay, it actually has an interesting system for roleplaying military units.
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Aw, but furries are what make the Albedo universe awesome.
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Aw, but furries are what make the Albedo universe awesome.
The setting creeps me the fuck out. Not the furry bit, the whole 'And then the universe started, and everyone already knew there place'.
I read that and wigged out.
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Well, the way I read it is that all the furries were created by something else and left as some kind of sience experement, they even have to all seeing net to watch them. Seems like exactly the kind of thing post-singularity humans would be doing to study social evolution. What made me double take was then Nazi rabbits, nazis sure, but why bunnies? Also, all the furries I hang out with are hippy peace loving beatnicks who think violence is wrong because animals don't hanve wars or some shit like that. I personally love military fiction.
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Animals are pretty horrible. Your friends are being willfully ignorant of what nature is really like.
They steal. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhHClfctsPIl)
They fight. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44supsrT9qU)
They eat the dead. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Mt2E1M6dUl)
They kill. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iFOVi0vJGU)
And they wage war on each other. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDSf3Kshq1M)
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But animals don't wage war with nuclear arms.
YOU CAN'T HUG YOUR CHILDREN WITH NUCLEAR ARMS.
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But animals don't wage war with nuclear arms.
YOU CAN'T HUG YOUR CHILDREN WITH NUCLEAR ARMS.
*Touch of Death*
Check Please
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But animals don't wage war with nuclear arms.
YOU CAN'T HUG YOUR CHILDREN WITH NUCLEAR ARMS.
they fucking would if they could
bear gives no shit about fallout
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And then we end up with Bear City (http://www.hulu.com/watch/1396/bear-city-driving). Everyone wins.
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Animals are pretty horrible. Your friends are being willfully ignorant of what nature is really like.
They fight. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44supsrT9qU)
They bite. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuvBo7mqvFM)
They fight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44supsrT9qU) and bite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuvBo7mqvFM) and fight. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44supsrT9qU)
Bite, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuvBo7mqvFM) bite, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuvBo7mqvFM) bite. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuvBo7mqvFM)
Fight, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44supsrT9qU) fight, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44supsrT9qU) fight. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44supsrT9qU)
The Itchy and Scratchy Show. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxYtF43cSxI&feature=related)
Fixed that for you, Chief.
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You could always co-opt Saga, ints incredible cinematic. Ship combat is pretty solid and the non-jedi stuff is perfect for any sci-fi setting. You can do stuff like say heavy blaster pistosl equal deagles. And if you're going to be throwing in hak-tars and those crazy super powered zealots who worship those fire guys, you can springle in Force powers.
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First, let me state for the record that the Stargate setting is one of my favorite of in all of sci-fi. Only the general ignorance of the setting by my group has prevented me from shanghaiing them into a game.
One of the key points of the Stargate setting is balancing issues. Remember that an SG team should be able to overwhelm even a numerically superior Goa'uld-aligned force. But the combat was never a central facet of the story. The central goal of the average episode/arc was to find some scientific solution to a greater problem, any skirmishing was almost window dressing intended to provide a ticking clock. Particularly poignant examples include: [spoiler]The dual scene of a group of Jaffa on Dakara and O'neil and Davis on Earth holding off replicators during the calibration of the Dakara Super Weapon, the air battle in Antarctica while SG-1 secured the Ancient Weapons Platform and a combined Tau'ri-Wraith-Traveler fleet engaging the Asuran Fleet, as a distraction in SG: Atlantis and the entire war against the Ori which was almost entirely consumed by the serch for the Sengraal[/spoiler]
The salient point of this is that any system that would do justice to the setting must have an excellent mechanic for handling skill tasks and investigation.
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Stargate is 'hey every planet has a sci-fi trope on it. We got tropes from Twilight Zone, from Star Trek, golden age sci fi, pulp sci fi, probably even some of that steampunk shit. Also we shoot aliens with machine guns. Science.'
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Stargate is 'hey every planet has a sci-fi trope on it. We got tropes from Twilight Zone, from Star Trek, golden age sci fi, pulp sci fi, probably even some of that steampunk shit. Also we shoot aliens with machine guns. Science.'
Daniel Jackson does not approve of your analogy.
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Stargate is 'hey every planet has a sci-fi trope on it. We got tropes from Twilight Zone, from Star Trek, golden age sci fi, pulp sci fi, probably even some of that steampunk shit. Also we shoot aliens with machine guns. Science.'
Daniel Jackson does not approve of your analogy.
He's not using an analogy. These are just facts.
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Stargate is 'hey every planet has a sci-fi trope on it. We got tropes from Twilight Zone, from Star Trek, golden age sci fi, pulp sci fi, probably even some of that steampunk shit. Also we shoot aliens with machine guns. Science.'
Daniel Jackson does not approve of your analogy.
nanotech, greys, time travel, space opera, prophecies, dopplegangers, clones, turned into children, religion vs science, appearances are deceiving, virtual realities, elder races, yo mamma
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Stargate is 'hey every planet has a sci-fi trope on it. We got tropes from Twilight Zone, from Star Trek, golden age sci fi, pulp sci fi, probably even some of that steampunk shit. Also we shoot aliens with machine guns. Science.'
Daniel Jackson does not approve of your analogy.
nanotech, greys, time travel, space opera, prophecies, dopplegangers, clones, turned into children, religion vs science, appearances are deceiving, virtual realities, elder races, yo mamma
(http://www.gwethil.batcave.co.uk/common/musesimg/jackson.jpg)
Well, that was 150 hours well spent.
Is it perhaps a curse that any series running long enough will descend into predictable tropes?
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Stargate is 'hey every planet has a sci-fi trope on it. We got tropes from Twilight Zone, from Star Trek, golden age sci fi, pulp sci fi, probably even some of that steampunk shit. Also we shoot aliens with machine guns. Science.'
Daniel Jackson does not approve of your analogy.
He's not using an analogy. These are just facts.
This is clearly not true. Sometimes they "zap" aliens with bulletless weapons.