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General Category => RPGs => : Darthrex March 03, 2014, 11:31:27 AM

: Divine Fire?
: Darthrex March 03, 2014, 11:31:27 AM
So did any of the Divine Fire scenarios ever get published? Or do they only exist as APs?
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: clockworkjoe March 03, 2014, 12:24:41 PM
APs only.
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: Gorkamorka March 03, 2014, 12:32:30 PM
Tom?  The market is demanding a book to buy.

We want to BUY TOMS BOOK!
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: Darthrex March 03, 2014, 12:52:23 PM
DAMMIT!
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: Thesauradon March 03, 2014, 01:24:32 PM
Also, was a recording of part 3 ever posted? I recall Tom mentioning it on the podcast several years ago, then Glancy running Divine Fire Syria, then radio silence.
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: Tadanori Oyama March 03, 2014, 01:26:21 PM
You know, we could do a Divine Fire fan version. Take what's in the APs and create a workable version. Between the three versions of the game I've heard there are more than enough details to replicate the scenario. I've run one before myself to great success (it's a fun scenario for first time CoC players actually).
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: Flawless P March 03, 2014, 01:31:10 PM
You know, we could do a Divine Fire fan version. Take what's in the APs and create a workable version. Between the three versions of the game I've heard there are more than enough details to replicate the scenario. I've run one before myself to great success (it's a fun scenario for first time CoC players actually).

100% This.

I also did this, and ran it for 2 new CoC players and 1 veteran. They all got something out of it. Pretty fun!
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: PirateLawyer March 03, 2014, 01:35:02 PM
I wrote a version of Divine Fire which took place in 2002 at Vozrozhdeniya Island.

Worked out pretty well, all in all. Player vs. player gunfight(s) nearly ensued by the end of it.
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: Tadanori Oyama March 03, 2014, 02:41:46 PM
Alright, so let's workshop this.

What are the core elements of Divine Fire?

1) Isolated facility that appears deserted
2) Foreign territory to the players (likely a foreign country as well)
3) An inability to leave said location
4) A reactor or other generator that is tapping into another dimension
5) Subtle mutagenic effects covering the area

Divine Fire itself uses a German military base while the version Glancy did used a Libyan military base.

Grunfeld, the ghoul behind the locked door, is another constant.

Any major elements I missed?
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: Flawless P March 03, 2014, 03:06:05 PM
Alright, so let's workshop this.

What are the core elements of Divine Fire?

1) Isolated facility that appears deserted
2) Foreign territory to the players (likely a foreign country as well)
3) An inability to leave said location
4) A reactor or other generator that is tapping into another dimension
5) Subtle mutagenic effects covering the area

Divine Fire itself uses a German military base while the version Glancy did used a Libyan military base.

Grunfeld, the ghoul behind the locked door, is another constant.

Any major elements I missed?

Usually an insane character to give half believable exposition before meeting Grunfeld.

Many survival horror tropes, such the aftermath of suicides, massacres and a constant low level of "something" lurking in the shadows waiting to do them in next.

One of the things I liked most was the discovery of the medical area, where the players find out that they were sent to the facility to become the next round of test subjects. Something about the disgusting fate that they narrowly avoided giving them a reason to not despair for a moment, then shocking them back into the reality of the situation with an attack is always good.

Sure you avoided THAT fate. Now do something about this one. Also I am not afraid of giving them weapons since the baddies are tough in this scenario. Mutant horse/elk thing and the col. are the boss fights, everything else can be exposition or you can throw in some mutant types to up the ante.
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: PirateLawyer March 03, 2014, 03:14:31 PM
Conflicting player (or 'friendly' NPC) agendas.

For example, in Divine Fire: Libya two of the PCs - the nuclear technician consultant and the CIA case officer liaison - have similar secret orders and objectives which the Delta Force Army player characters are wholly ignorant about until they run away during a firefight to investigate the bottom level of the GONDOLA facility to try to accomplish their goals. One may well surmise that the CIA officer and the nuclear technician may well be affiliated with the new 'legitimate' Delta Green . . . because trying to reverse engineer the gate spell is a good idea, right? nothing could go wrong in trying to weaponize the Mythos, or conduct an improvised Operation Paperclip . . . 
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: PirateLawyer March 03, 2014, 03:52:16 PM
One element not covered yet is how do the players get out of the scenario?

Answers range from:

1) Co-operate with Grunwald and let him deal with the Gate
2) Ignore Grunwald and co-operate with an insane survivor of the site
3) Try to destroy the Gate themselves

Etc.
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: Tadanori Oyama March 03, 2014, 04:18:54 PM
Excellent.

So, getting into the scenario...

Two options have been presented previously: ordered to investigate (both times to extract key personel, just with different motivations) or taken to the facility.

Ordered has meant soldiers which means heavy weaponry but that's not a huge issue given the toughness of the situation once the shooting starts. Also, giving everyone guns makes it more dangerous for players with competing agendas because EVERYONE is heavily armed.

Taken against one's will makes it more survivor horror is since they lack information, resources, and equipment. The second test had victims in a van but prisoners in a cell or ones who escape during the inital outbreak (civilian contractors or people being considered for arrest?) but can't escape the facility would do as well.
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: Darthrex March 04, 2014, 03:10:27 PM
Since there is no official Divine Fire scenario I was thinking of making a prequel where the players are various pawns of the Ahnenerbe SS sent to some site or another to recover the Artifact I was thinking ancient cave system in Iraq or Syria.
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: Tim March 04, 2014, 07:00:42 PM
My divine fire will occurs using Call of Catthulhu as the core. All the cats are strays being taken in the back of a van to get spayed or neutered at a human society. The van pulls into an isolated facility near a major airport and drivers leave the van. Eventually the cats find out everyone (cats and humans) are dead, they are pursued by mutant (undead?) German Shepard, meet a mad Siamese who keeps going off about the nature of the universe is in a ball of string, and interact with a hairless cat from behind a locked door who has their own agenda.

The only thing I am wondering is do I make it straight up Call of Catthulhu or use the Delta Calico variant.



Ok that started out as a joke but it sort of works.
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: Review Cultist March 04, 2014, 07:12:19 PM
My divine fire will occurs using Call of Catthulhu as the core. All the cats are strays being taken in the back of a van to get spayed or neutered at a human society. The van pulls into an isolated facility near a major airport and drivers leave the van. Eventually the cats find out everyone (cats and humans) are dead, they are pursued by mutant (undead?) German Shepard, meet a mad Siamese who keeps going off about the nature of the universe is in a ball of string, and interact with a hairless cat from behind a locked door who has their own agenda.

The only thing I am wondering is do I make it straight up Call of Catthulhu or use the Delta Calico variant.



Ok that started out as a joke but it sort of works.

... Someone needs to run that... and then post it to the Community AP Site... seriously. :D
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: Darthrex March 04, 2014, 11:31:47 PM
I would play that.
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: PirateLawyer March 05, 2014, 09:41:56 PM
I'd call this an unproductive detour . . .
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: Flawless P March 06, 2014, 11:21:29 AM
I'd call this the most productive detour new topic!
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: Tim March 06, 2014, 03:00:34 PM
I will say I would also like to give cash money to Mr Church and/or a publisher for this scenario (and the post soviet followup one as well would be great).

My theory is Tom saw what publishing did to Ross and not wanting to become such a horrible monster has decided to walk a gentler path. He may even be wandering the US at this very moment righting wrongs with a blend of martial arts, high powered handguns, and the infectious sound of his laughter.
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: PirateLawyer March 06, 2014, 06:22:37 PM
I will say I would also like to give cash money to Mr Church and/or a publisher for this scenario (and the post soviet followup one as well would be great).

Well, I authored the Divine Fire post-Soviet scenario. Which was closely modeled after Adam Scott Glancy's Divine Fire: Libya actual play.
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: clockworkjoe March 06, 2014, 08:14:29 PM
I will say I would also like to give cash money to Mr Church and/or a publisher for this scenario (and the post soviet followup one as well would be great).

My theory is Tom saw what publishing did to Ross and not wanting to become such a horrible monster has decided to walk a gentler path. He may even be wandering the US at this very moment righting wrongs with a blend of martial arts, high powered handguns, and the infectious sound of his laughter.

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: Tim March 06, 2014, 08:31:05 PM
I will say I would also like to give cash money to Mr Church and/or a publisher for this scenario (and the post soviet followup one as well would be great).

Well, I authored the Divine Fire post-Soviet scenario. Which was closely modeled after Adam Scott Glancy's Divine Fire: Libya actual play.

I was thinking Tom ran a follow up in Stalinist Russia and an AP was recorded but maybe I am cray cray in the bannana patch.
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: PirateLawyer March 06, 2014, 08:31:36 PM
Well Ross' post reminded me to join the RPPR Steam group. So that's something.
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: PirateLawyer March 06, 2014, 08:43:57 PM
I was thinking Tom ran a follow up in Stalinist Russia and an AP was recorded but maybe I am cray cray in the bannana patch.

He certainly did, but it wasn't post-Soviet. That version was mostly set in Berlin in 1946 if I recall correctly.
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: Tim March 06, 2014, 11:15:03 PM
I was thinking Tom ran a follow up in Stalinist Russia and an AP was recorded but maybe I am cray cray in the bannana patch.

He certainly did, but it wasn't post-Soviet. That version was mostly set in Berlin in 1946 if I recall correctly.

My bad. For some reason I had thought it was in Russia but it would not be the first time nor the last time I was wrong.
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: ToddGilbert August 23, 2014, 12:40:41 PM
I am thinking of trying to reconstruct Divine Fire from the AP's. Can anyone save me some work with their own notes. I will erect a monolith in your honor.
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: Gorkamorka March 01, 2015, 07:36:46 AM
Rise thread! Rise and live again! (Mo ha ha)

I'm looking for a one shot to run some victims trough.  Did anyone here ever try out "Divine Fire" based on the APs?  How did it go?

Mister Church.  Would you be so kind as to pass on your pre-written PCs and/or their back story and/or the facility map.  Running the plot is not to complex, but the PC write up is quite a bit of work.

Even just on the Patreon page?  It would be most appreciated.
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: Tom Church March 01, 2015, 03:40:34 PM
I believe I have the characters in my old game files.  I can probably work up the base map too.  Just need some time to locate everything.
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: Gorkamorka March 01, 2015, 03:57:44 PM
I believe I have the characters in my old game files.  I can probably work up the base map too.  Just need some time to locate everything.
Tom Church, ladies and gentlemen.

Thanks, really appreciate it.