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Title: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: clockworkjoe on February 26, 2016, 03:46:27 PM
We're on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/RPPR (https://www.patreon.com/RPPR)

We also have a companion site here http://afterhours.roleplayingpublicradio.com/ (http://afterhours.roleplayingpublicradio.com/) - it indexes all of the content available to Patreon backers and links to it, so you don't have to scroll through hundreds of posts on Patreon.

This thread is about discussing the Patreon - what you like, what questions you have about it, and things of that nature.

If you're a $10 backer or above and you have NOT received a postcard, please contact me on the Patreon so I can mail you one.

For non-backers what is keeping from you backing? Just financial reasons? Does the site not accept the payment form you prefer to use? Something else?

For backers, what do you want to see more of? Less of?

Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: PirateLawyer on February 26, 2016, 03:51:17 PM
For non-backers what is keeping from you backing? Just financial reasons? Does the site not accept the payment form you prefer to use? Something else?

Lack of time. It's not lack of interest or lack of money.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: Tim on February 26, 2016, 05:05:58 PM
I may well be in the minority but as a backer I don't actually consume very much extra content. I see the Patreon as an easy way to pay for the content and the level of compensation is one I choose. Even if you did none of the extra stuff I would still donate at my current level. In actuality I have a small fear you will burn your self out trying to do extra stuff for the Patreon backers and the over all product would suffer. It has not happened yet mind you but in someways I see it like a kickstarer that has over run stretch goals and the creator eventually could resent all of the extra things they have on their plate to do.

You might ask why if this is how I feel I had not used other mechanisms to donate and really the answer is that I am lazy and Patreon makes it easy to manage a number of donations in a single interface so I only started to donate once you got onto Patreon.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: clockworkjoe on February 26, 2016, 05:41:14 PM
I am well aware of the burn out possibility. I've tried to design the extra content to be easy for me to produce - after hours and wod the heck are just round table discussions, which are easy to make. I only run 1 patreon game a month because I have enlisted Aaron and other RPPR cast members to run games. I am trying to streamline my work as much as possible. The Patreon does a lot to alleviate that problem because it means I don't have to chase freelance work as much.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: D6xD6 - Chris on February 26, 2016, 06:21:25 PM
I'm at the $10 level, which I think is a fair price (a bargain, even) for the amount of value and entertainment provided by the main podcast and AP podcasts.  Having access to After Hours, WoD the Heck, and options to play in online games is a great reward for recurring payments.

I don't really have any suggestions for improvement; the only thing I find a little worthless is the "early access" to APs being only a day ahead.  But, some listeners might really like that. 

If you do want ideas for additional content, some podcasts on Patreon release mini episodes in between episodes.  Maybe record a quick and dirty extended shout out (like, 10-15 minutes or something), without any editing or adding music or whatever, and just drop that to Patreon backers every week (or two weeks). 

Just glad the Patreon (and the site!) continue to be a success. 

Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: Adam_Autist on February 26, 2016, 07:10:21 PM
Yes! I approve of the idea of shout-out minisodes idea. I crave more interesting things.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: smalltowncinema on March 03, 2016, 05:20:14 PM
Just finished the WoD The Heck actual play and it was so much fun to listen to, though I feel having these gonzo AP's too frequently would definitely get tiresome.  Quarterly might be a good schedule.

I'd also be into seeing an old WoD campaign as a milestone goal sometime in the future. 
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: BishopSansPants on April 02, 2016, 02:38:14 AM
I started listening to you guys mostly for the Actual Plays, but since I don't have as much time to listen anymore (I moved and got a job that wasn't quite as mindless to do), my two favorite things that you guys do are the After Hours and Game Designer Workshop (or whatever you guys are calling it now to differentiate from GDC or Warhammer fame).

After Hours is pretty awesome and that along with your regular stuff is enough for me (although I have been enjoying WoD the Heck a lot, and I still enjoy your APs when I get the time).

So, I guess I'm just echoing what the others have said -- keep on keeping on.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: D6xD6 - Chris on April 02, 2016, 09:49:51 AM
I increased my pledge in order to help RPPR upgrade The NET, but I'm not sure how long I can dedicate $25 a month (lol, teacher).  A few months for sure, though.  Other supporters might be in the same boat.  Any thoughts on restructuring the Patreon rewards to place emphasis on the higher quality server first, to make sure the website runs smoothly?  Or is this more of a one-time, annual cost that won't affect the way the Patreon is setup going forward?
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: RadioactiveBeer on April 02, 2016, 09:29:52 PM
As a non-backer, financial reasons were my primary reason up until very recently; I had a long gap between my last job and the one I have now. Now that I'm in more stable employment with decent (but not great) pay I might set up a small pledge.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: clockworkjoe on April 03, 2016, 12:40:41 AM
The cost for RPPR has gone up quite a bit, but if we at least stay close to the $2k level, we should be fine. Pretty soon, $5/month backers will get even more rewards as tehy get 4 preview episodes of tabletop tales a month.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: Dom on July 01, 2016, 03:58:08 PM
For non-backers what is keeping from you backing? Just financial reasons? Does the site not accept the payment form you prefer to use? Something else?

Lack of time. It's not lack of interest or lack of money.

A little bit on the money side, but mostly lack of time as well for me. Backed during 2015 until I realized I had no time at all and had a backlog of seven episodes and a bunch of APs with no time to listen to either.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: clockworkjoe on July 04, 2016, 02:52:36 PM
Yeah, I can see that being a problem. We do have RPPR Illustrated - which are desktop wallpaper sized pictures but other than that, but other than that I don't see much of a way to create rewards for fans that don't have much time.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorkamorka on July 04, 2016, 03:33:26 PM
For non-backers what is keeping from you backing? Just financial reasons? Does the site not accept the payment form you prefer to use? Something else?

Lack of time. It's not lack of interest or lack of money.

A little bit on the money side, but mostly lack of time as well for me. Backed during 2015 until I realized I had no time at all and had a backlog of seven episodes and a bunch of APs with no time to listen to either.

You could just back to support something you like and not for rewards...
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: Dom on July 04, 2016, 04:45:09 PM
I backed the Kickstarter for Red Markets, even though I don't have easy access to US dollars. No need to call me ungrateful.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorkamorka on July 04, 2016, 04:50:16 PM
I backed the Kickstarter for Red Markets, even though I don't have easy access to US dollars. No need to call me ungrateful.

Not at all.  It's just that Patreon is not always about what you get, it can also be about what you are supporting because you want it to exist.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: Dom on July 04, 2016, 04:54:27 PM
Donating even $5 monthly is a lot for me. I pledged $15 to the Kickstarter knowing that I could at the very least chip in with one of RPPR's sponsored projects. And I will get defensive if someone tells me that because I can't donate more money, that means that I don't want to support the people working in it.

If you want to talk about it anymore than that, please PM me. But yes, I will get defensive if I get prodded for not donating to the Patreon.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: clockworkjoe on July 04, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
WE LOVE EVERY LISTENER AT RPPR :D :D :D

seriously any support is deeply appreciated. I just want to make the Patreon the best one possible, so rewards that don't require a lot of time are an interesting idea.

Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: Adam_Autist on July 08, 2016, 12:02:15 PM
Right now I can only afford $2 per month sadly. Running your own business and having just spent a small McDuck on a house doesn't leave me much resources right now.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: CADmonkey on April 18, 2017, 08:07:50 AM
Listening to After Hours #26 and Caleb's remarks, "have you reviewed this before?" & "It might have had werewolves though? but don't they all do?"* got me thinking: Cataloging the various "alternate history WWII" games that have come and gone in the past 15-20 years could be an amusing exercise.  This particular niche is just littered with dead game lines.  There was an article in a recent issue of Wargames Illustrated discussing all of the miniatures from defunct alternate history WWII game lines you could use for playing Konflict '47.  I honestly don't think that the author saw the irony in this.

The story of Paolo Parente's attempts to market a game based on his Dust comic is epic.  There have been at least three attempts with different companies, but the first one with Rackham was the most glorious failure.  In the initial design stage, it morphed from Dust into AT-43, a far-future sci-fi setting in which the main villains (Therians) are a race of posthuman immortals with a grand plan to enclose every star in the universe in a dyson sphere in order to stop the expansion of the universe and thereby halt entropy.  In addition to that, there is a race of uplifted albino gorillas (created by the Therians), and humans in AT-43 were also created (or rather, recreated) by the Therians from pre-singularity gene stocks, as a part of their grand plan to halt entropy.

* they don't all have werewolves, some have zombies!
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: clockworkjoe on April 19, 2017, 02:14:39 AM
Dust had a comic? I saw various versions of the games on store shelves but had no idea what it was about.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: CADmonkey on April 19, 2017, 07:57:02 AM
Dust had a comic? I saw various versions of the games on store shelves but had no idea what it was about.

As I recall, Parente started by selling model kits, then the comic, then the wargame.  And it appears that Parente is still selling the wargame on his website (http://www.dustgame.com/index.php).  The FLGS downtown just put their remaining Dust stuff on sale to make room for Reaper Bones mini's.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: Adam_Autist on April 19, 2017, 05:04:32 PM
We had a back issue of the dust comic for a while at work. I believe FFG do the current games.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: CADmonkey on April 19, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
I believe FFG do the current games.

No, not for years: http://www.dustgame.com/news_d.php?id=147 (http://www.dustgame.com/news_d.php?id=147)

They were the second of three companies to partner with Parente, and the first to actually bring a Dust game to market.  And after FFG, Parente partnered with Battlefront (of Flames of War fame).  But that partnership ended after a spat over kickstarter money: http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/update-about-dust-tactics-wave-2-shipping/ (http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/update-about-dust-tactics-wave-2-shipping/)

Bit of a shame, but as I said, alternate history WWII games seem to have a habit of dying.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: Adam_Autist on April 20, 2017, 05:52:43 PM
oops. Thought you were talking about Dust Tactics.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: CADmonkey on April 20, 2017, 06:43:00 PM
oops. Thought you were talking about Dust Tactics.

Dust Tactics, Dust Warfare, Dust Anything, FFG hasn't been producing anything new since sometime in 2014: https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2013/5/2/war-on-a-new-front/ (https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2013/5/2/war-on-a-new-front/)

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What Exactly Will Change on June 1st, 2013?

As of June 1st, 2013, Battlefront Miniatures will announce, distribute, market, and promote all new products for Dust Tactics and Dust Warfare . From that date forward, please visit Battlefront’s website for all the latest Dust -related announcements.

What About Previously Announced Products?

From now until our inventory is exhausted, FFG will be the exclusive distributor for all Dust Tactics and Dust Warfare products announced before June 1st, 2013.

Who Will Handle Customer Service?

Issues pertaining to products announced prior to June 1st, 2013 should be directed to FFG, while those pertaining to products announced after June 1st, 2013 should be directed to Battlefront.

FFG is still selling old stock that they had already produced (or were contracted to produce) before the handover to Battlefront, but they haven't produced anything new for years now.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: Adam_Autist on April 20, 2017, 06:52:00 PM
Ok. Thanks.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: Twisting H on April 21, 2017, 01:19:01 AM
If the Dust comics are good let us know
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: CADmonkey on May 07, 2017, 08:18:36 PM
So there's a local gaming convention coming up in two weeks, and while I'm perusing the second-hand game vendors* I thought I might keep an eye out for something the After Hours crew could review.  I've enjoyed the CyberSpace reviews so far, are there any titles your looking for?

*still haven't completed my collection of TMNT & Other Strangeness supplements.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: clockworkjoe on May 13, 2017, 12:54:19 AM
We definitely do NOT need any Palladium stuff. Got plenty of that. Nor do we need any WoD stuff.

Weird adventure modules are always good, especially third party ones. We haven't really covered a lot of the early 2000s d20 glut so any of that bottom of the barrel material would be good.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: CADmonkey on May 13, 2017, 09:11:31 AM
We definitely do NOT need any Palladium stuff. Got plenty of that. Nor do we need any WoD stuff.

Weird adventure modules are always good, especially third party ones. We haven't really covered a lot of the early 2000s d20 glut so any of that bottom of the barrel material would be good.
Talk about being spoiled for choice...

I remember the 'aughts, in 2003 the proprietor of the FLGS downtown told me "You know, you could put the d20 logo on a bag full of dogshit, and people would buy it".

I usually skim over the boxes of d20 stuff some of those vendors still have*.  I'll see what comes up.

*where are they storing this stuff? ???
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: CADmonkey on August 22, 2017, 06:33:30 PM
And it appears that Parente is still selling the wargame on his website (http://www.dustgame.com/index.php).  The FLGS downtown just put their remaining Dust stuff on sale to make room for Reaper Bones mini's.
And speaking of Dust: Dust 1947 at Gen Con 2017 (https://www.facebook.com/pg/tabletopgamingnews/photos/?tab=album&album_id=10154989291197945).  I wonder if this means Dust will be showing up in stores again...
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: clockworkjoe on August 26, 2017, 09:15:49 PM
Wow, some franchises never die, despite never living.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: CADmonkey on August 29, 2017, 07:00:04 PM
Wow, some franchises never die, despite never living.
Well, we'll see what the future brings.  Dust was being sold in stores before.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: CADmonkey on August 29, 2017, 07:05:40 PM
And I think it was in an episode of After Hours that Caleb mentioned this, so I guess I'll post this here.

From Au revoir, Mr. Lewis (http://www.tiff.net/the-review/au-revoir-mr-lewis/):
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If Lewis’ first mistake buried him as an entrepreneur, his second destroyed his directing career. In 1972, Lewis directed and starred in the notorious vanity project The Day the Clown Cried, a dramatic passion project with one of the most cringe-inducing scenarios imaginable: Jerry plays a sad-faced clown in Auschwitz who is tasked by the Nazis to entertain the children about to be exterminated. The film achieved legendary status when Lewis got into a dispute with the producers, and then successfully suppressed it from ever being seen by more than a few people. Towards the end of his life, however, Lewis surprisingly included a complete print of The Day the Clown Cried to the Library of Congress along with the rest of his film catalogue, on the condition that it not be made available to the public until the year 2025.
I honestly didn't believe that this movie actually existed until today.  :o
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorkamorka on September 04, 2017, 04:37:07 AM
As a part of RPPRs look at World of darkens, was there any talk of looking at "Kill Puppies for Satan"?
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: Twisting H on September 04, 2017, 06:53:43 PM
I'm unreasonably happy that Rift's Wormwood is being featured for Palladium Poisoning.  ;D

Faust is being a little bit of a pansy, but Tom totally has the right attitude towards Wormwood; it is awesome!
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: clockworkjoe on September 06, 2017, 12:23:27 AM
I'm unreasonably happy that Rift's Wormwood is being featured for Palladium Poisoning.  ;D

Faust is being a little bit of a pansy, but Tom totally has the right attitude towards Wormwood; it is awesome!

it is a hell made of boogers and skin houses
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: PirateLawyer on December 09, 2017, 02:36:31 PM
Am going to reluctantly tap out of the Patreon based on the upcoming policy changes. I suggest looking at moving to the new Kickstarter patron option, or others, given this ridiculous new business policy.
Title: Re: RPPR Patreon Discussion Thread
Post by: clockworkjoe on December 16, 2017, 05:00:57 PM
Am going to reluctantly tap out of the Patreon based on the upcoming policy changes. I suggest looking at moving to the new Kickstarter patron option, or others, given this ridiculous new business policy.

good news! They reversed course on this. Everything is fine!