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« on: December 19, 2012, 01:24:19 AM »
Hey all, thanks for your responses. It is an interesting topic on a distressing problem.
Clockworkjoe: I realize, as you point out, that it's also a very complex problem having many facets including mental health, gun laws, and with no simple solution. The links provided fascinating reading. I do feel that censorship is definitely not the answer. Also, if I'm understanding it correctly, the view that the "blame media" thing is actually a form of class warfare is an interesting point, which I haven't really considered before, but it does make sense. For example, proponents for less gun control(usually conservative) point out that's it's not the guns but the entertainment media causing the violence. Proponents for more gun control(usually liberal) point out that it is the guns, and also the entertainment media. I guess both can be seen as saying, we value a gun culture, or a progressive culture, or a whatever culture etc. but your "video game" culture is inherently wrong and should be banned, and you are somehow wrong for liking it.
Nice to know that even though liberals and conservatives can't agree on anything else whatsoever, at least they agree that video games are bad.
Incidentally, sometimes it seems to me people who defend guns and blame video games also seem to be the people who can't get enough of war movies. None of them are saying that WWII movies might be a problem though. Don't get me wrong, I'm not necessarily for or against gun ownership, and I'm all for well done WWII movie. Just an observation that seems to be an example demonstrating how one group says its media is ok, while other media isn't, even though both are equally violent. I wonder if it's more of an American thing. Fan of violent sports? Great! Fan of horror movies? There's something wrong with you.
Mckma: Yeah, research studies can be readily misinterpreted, especially when brought up in the context of tragic events such as a mass shooting. And I also agree with many of your points. However, the news does cites these sorts of studies frequently. Several I watched recently have all but stated that violent video games and movies have directly caused the shooting. Not very good journalism, probably. Actually, I'm starting to wonder lately if there is such a thing as good journalism?
Quickrelease: No worries that you're not a member of RPPR, I'm really interested what all my fellow gamers think about this subject:) You bring up a good point: why RPGs are usually focused on murder, violating the law, etc? Could there be an interesting RPG game, or at least scenario, that could be run without including anything violent? And this can also be asked about gaming as a whole. Looking at my Steam game library, I don't think I have a single game that doesn't have one violent aspect or another. Is it because it's thrilling, more interesting? Probably part of the reason. I don't really know. That's a complex topic as well. What I do know is that most (though certainly not all) of the gamers I have known are the friendliest, most considerate people. Actually I think that goes for most fans of sci-fi, fantasy, horror, etc. The way the news media tells it though, we're all ticking time bombs. And to put it simply, I think that is untrue and unfair.
Anyway, sorry if I started rambling. Just my thoughts.