Random Podcast Question(s)

[Mckma]

So I was wondering about something and I figured if anyone else had anything, it could go here too.

You have mentioned several times in the podcast (often comically) the "layers upon layers."  Is this a specific reference to something, or just a catchy phrase that has come up and stuck with you?

Like I said, random question, really doesn't matter, but something I was curious about nonetheless...

[clockworkjoe]

To be honest, I can't remember where I first heard that phrase - I often think of it in connection with "it's a rich tapestry" - I think I read in an article blasting bad reviews of art - and by bad I mean that they are poorly written and show that the reviewer is ignorant of art.

To me - those are such bullshit empty phrases so I use them ironically - if you read a review that includes either of those phrases, you know it is a worthless review. It's often used by people trying to review art movies they clearly don't understand so they fall back on "layers upon layers" - for example, if you don't understand the final scene of Bergman's Seventh Seal, you would just say it has layers upon layers in order to somehow get across it's complex without having to reveal you don't understand a goddamn thing about it.

[Boyos]

I like to think your secreatly an oger, and everyone knows there like onions, layers upon layers.

[Mckma]

To be honest, I can't remember where I first heard that phrase - I often think of it in connection with "it's a rich tapestry" - I think I read in an article blasting bad reviews of art - and by bad I mean that they are poorly written and show that the reviewer is ignorant of art.

I figured it was pretty much something like this, but didn't know for sure...

[clockworkjoe]

To be honest, I can't remember where I first heard that phrase - I often think of it in connection with "it's a rich tapestry" - I think I read in an article blasting bad reviews of art - and by bad I mean that they are poorly written and show that the reviewer is ignorant of art.

I figured it was pretty much something like this, but didn't know for sure...

well you are now driving me insane because I think I got it from a specific piece of writing but I can't remember what it was for the life of me and W̌̅ͪ̓̔̒̂͊ͮͥ́̀ͮ̓ͦ̚͏̛̘̝̝̠̣̩͇̩̺̦̮̭̼ͅH̴̭̥͓̤̭̺͍͙̲͉̆̅̄̎ͯ̓ͤͨ̒ͫ̓̌ͅY̴̴̛̮͇̬̤̰̜̳͍̹̤̤͓̌̏̈̇͌̒͗ͤͭͨ́͞ ̴̢͍͈͈̠̫̯͉̖̙͉̟͕̼͍͓̓̀ͫ͛̊̏̈́͊̿̓̏̕͜ͅC̴̩̠̗̰̋ͫ̏ͬ̽̀̊̉ͮ̏̿̔̊̌͡Å̷͆͋̀̀̆̌͊͋̅̈̋͆̍ͤ̆̒̚͜҉̧͈̜̺̯̦N̶̛̘̙̥̘̙͒̔̐͂̔̽̀ͅ'̴̛̿͑ͥͮ͊̂̾͑̓ͣ̐̄ͭͧ̚͏̝͇̫͖͎̗̝͉͎͘T̄̒̍ͩͨ͡͏̢̪̤̦̜͍̖̙̯̠͈͓̗̮͔̥ͅ ̢̧̭͚͎̝̪͉̻͕̦̞͓̘̬̙͍͕̑̊͒̅͆̈ͩ̀͜I̷̩͓̰͉̤͖̹̠̬̟̗̘̘̠ͤͥ̃̇̔͛̾̂̎͛ͫ̈́̇̚͜ ̷̬̻̮̭̞̮̜̇͊ͪͭ͗̉̀̆̓͐ͩ̆̔͆̅̅͆̈͢R̩̰̠̦̹͇̜͓͙̭̞̘̘͔̫̍͂͗̐̑̀̔̐́͠͞ͅͅĖ̸̸̹̠͙̪̱̮͓͍̺͚̟̥͎͖̯͔́͒ͧͭ̾̊́͟͞ͅM̵̨̬͎̺̝̗̹̖̟̳̮̪̬͚̽ͨ̓̿ͭͤ́͛ͦ̏͗̚̕E̛̺̬͎̭̺͍͕̭͇͇̱̪̩͓̮͒͛ͬͤ̃̏ͨ̌̑͒̅͒̓̾̇̎̊̍́̀́͢M̸͓̼̖ͦͬ͐̓̀̀͟B̦̱͎͓̱̯͖̖͖̹͇̪̫̭̲͎̝̪̲̿͆̂̇̊ͣͩ̕͝E͖̖͓͕̟̮ͯ̓̈ͩ̍̒̃͑̔̓ͤͣ̾ͥ͜͝R̡̤̠̞̲̥̱̖͇͓̦͈̘̫͔̀̓͗ͣͩ͛ͭ̀̈͊̑ͮͤ̊͝

[Wooberman]

well you are now driving me insane because I think I got it from a specific piece of writing but I can't remember what it was for the life of me and W̌̅ͪ̓̔̒̂͊ͮͥ́̀ͮ̓ͦ̚͏̛̘̝̝̠̣̩͇̩̺̦̮̭̼ͅH̴̭̥͓̤̭̺͍͙̲͉̆̅̄̎ͯ̓ͤͨ̒ͫ̓̌ͅY̴̴̛̮͇̬̤̰̜̳͍̹̤̤͓̌̏̈̇͌̒͗ͤͭͨ́͞ ̴̢͍͈͈̠̫̯͉̖̙͉̟͕̼͍͓̓̀ͫ͛̊̏̈́͊̿̓̏̕͜ͅC̴̩̠̗̰̋ͫ̏ͬ̽̀̊̉ͮ̏̿̔̊̌͡Å̷͆͋̀̀̆̌͊͋̅̈̋͆̍ͤ̆̒̚͜҉̧͈̜̺̯̦N̶̛̘̙̥̘̙͒̔̐͂̔̽̀ͅ'̴̛̿͑ͥͮ͊̂̾͑̓ͣ̐̄ͭͧ̚͏̝͇̫͖͎̗̝͉͎͘T̄̒̍ͩͨ͡͏̢̪̤̦̜͍̖̙̯̠͈͓̗̮͔̥ͅ ̢̧̭͚͎̝̪͉̻͕̦̞͓̘̬̙͍͕̑̊͒̅͆̈ͩ̀͜I̷̩͓̰͉̤͖̹̠̬̟̗̘̘̠ͤͥ̃̇̔͛̾̂̎͛ͫ̈́̇̚͜ ̷̬̻̮̭̞̮̜̇͊ͪͭ͗̉̀̆̓͐ͩ̆̔͆̅̅͆̈͢R̩̰̠̦̹͇̜͓͙̭̞̘̘͔̫̍͂͗̐̑̀̔̐́͠͞ͅͅĖ̸̸̹̠͙̪̱̮͓͍̺͚̟̥͎͖̯͔́͒ͧͭ̾̊́͟͞ͅM̵̨̬͎̺̝̗̹̖̟̳̮̪̬͚̽ͨ̓̿ͭͤ́͛ͦ̏͗̚̕E̛̺̬͎̭̺͍͕̭͇͇̱̪̩͓̮͒͛ͬͤ̃̏ͨ̌̑͒̅͒̓̾̇̎̊̍́̀́͢M̸͓̼̖ͦͬ͐̓̀̀͟B̦̱͎͓̱̯͖̖͖̹͇̪̫̭̲͎̝̪̲̿͆̂̇̊ͣͩ̕͝E͖̖͓͕̟̮ͯ̓̈ͩ̍̒̃͑̔̓ͤͣ̾ͥ͜͝R̡̤̠̞̲̥̱̖͇͓̦͈̘̫͔̀̓͗ͣͩ͛ͭ̀̈͊̑ͮͤ̊͝

Ross, Why do i get the feeling you just wanted to find a use for the funky text?

[IDaMan008]

well you are now driving me insane because I think I got it from a specific piece of writing but I can't remember what it was for the life of me and W̌̅ͪ̓̔̒̂͊ͮͥ́̀ͮ̓ͦ̚͏̛̘̝̝̠̣̩͇̩̺̦̮̭̼ͅH̴̭̥͓̤̭̺͍͙̲͉̆̅̄̎ͯ̓ͤͨ̒ͫ̓̌ͅY̴̴̛̮͇̬̤̰̜̳͍̹̤̤͓̌̏̈̇͌̒͗ͤͭͨ́͞ ̴̢͍͈͈̠̫̯͉̖̙͉̟͕̼͍͓̓̀ͫ͛̊̏̈́͊̿̓̏̕͜ͅC̴̩̠̗̰̋ͫ̏ͬ̽̀̊̉ͮ̏̿̔̊̌͡Å̷͆͋̀̀̆̌͊͋̅̈̋͆̍ͤ̆̒̚͜҉̧͈̜̺̯̦N̶̛̘̙̥̘̙͒̔̐͂̔̽̀ͅ'̴̛̿͑ͥͮ͊̂̾͑̓ͣ̐̄ͭͧ̚͏̝͇̫͖͎̗̝͉͎͘T̄̒̍ͩͨ͡͏̢̪̤̦̜͍̖̙̯̠͈͓̗̮͔̥ͅ ̢̧̭͚͎̝̪͉̻͕̦̞͓̘̬̙͍͕̑̊͒̅͆̈ͩ̀͜I̷̩͓̰͉̤͖̹̠̬̟̗̘̘̠ͤͥ̃̇̔͛̾̂̎͛ͫ̈́̇̚͜ ̷̬̻̮̭̞̮̜̇͊ͪͭ͗̉̀̆̓͐ͩ̆̔͆̅̅͆̈͢R̩̰̠̦̹͇̜͓͙̭̞̘̘͔̫̍͂͗̐̑̀̔̐́͠͞ͅͅĖ̸̸̹̠͙̪̱̮͓͍̺͚̟̥͎͖̯͔́͒ͧͭ̾̊́͟͞ͅM̵̨̬͎̺̝̗̹̖̟̳̮̪̬͚̽ͨ̓̿ͭͤ́͛ͦ̏͗̚̕E̛̺̬͎̭̺͍͕̭͇͇̱̪̩͓̮͒͛ͬͤ̃̏ͨ̌̑͒̅͒̓̾̇̎̊̍́̀́͢M̸͓̼̖ͦͬ͐̓̀̀͟B̦̱͎͓̱̯͖̖͖̹͇̪̫̭̲͎̝̪̲̿͆̂̇̊ͣͩ̕͝E͖̖͓͕̟̮ͯ̓̈ͩ̍̒̃͑̔̓ͤͣ̾ͥ͜͝R̡̤̠̞̲̥̱̖͇͓̦͈̘̫͔̀̓͗ͣͩ͛ͭ̀̈͊̑ͮͤ̊͝

Ross, Why do i get the feeling you just wanted to find a use for the funky text?

In fact, Ross has a rich tapestry of reasons for using the funky text, layers upon layers of different justifications, with a large dollop of motivation on the side.

It's all very complicated, and I don't understand it one bit.

[beowuuf]

Just to be ultmately sad, Joss Whedon and Nathan Fillion used the phrase too in the commentery to the TV pilot 'serentiy'. There it was 'layers upon layers of acting challenges'. So it could be a common phrase?

[Shallazar]

Its also in this video!

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