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Payday 2 Discussion Thread
« on: August 11, 2014, 04:51:33 PM »
So RPPR's new episode (103) reminded me that I wanted to talk you all y'all peeps about the mechanics of payday.

Let me begin by saying, I do love this game, I've put in over 100 hours easily.

So does anyone else get kind of frustrated with guards randomly deciding they can see you through a wall.. or ECM's not being super clear about when to put them down?

I downloaded Hoxhud, it has timers for the ECM's and shows you how many body bags you have on your person and how many pagers your group can answer, also you can check timers for objectives without having to go back over to it.

So with all that stuff added in I feel like I learned so much about the game mechanics.

So some of the things I like to do in Payday 2.

Four Stores can be completed on all Difficulties up to Overkill by going into the liqueur store and ecming the ATM and hiding behind the open door until the escape car comes.

Diamond Store gives a 30% stealth bonus to your next mission and is pretty easy to do. Especially on Normal.

Chaining ECM's is the key after you find the security card and pad just ecm and switch off the alarm and run 4 bags to the car before they run out.

After that do a Rats or Firestarter on Overkill as a pro job to get yourself a solid 500k exp.

The money on those missions are really good too.

You guys got any tricks of the trade to share?
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Re: Payday 2 Discussion Thread
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2014, 05:38:41 PM »
Payday 2 is really fun but it is terrible at explaining itself to new players. You should all read this guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GvFAlc9n51gg_bv05Em7HqLeLRJl_RJWS1ZuUUnKXaw/edit

That being said, HoxHud is a user made mod that has been OKed by the developer - get it here https://steamcommunity.com/groups/HoxHud

Be sure to keep it updated.

Watch videos of pros to learn certain  levels, especially stealth levels like shadow raid

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most new players seem to avoid enforcer skills for some reason but man shooting skillz are usually very useful.

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Re: Payday 2 Discussion Thread
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2014, 05:45:28 PM »
My favorite combo so for has been the Mastermind-Enforcer.

I've been toying with the build calculator.

http://www.pd2skills.info/

This is also Overkill Approved. It's good and has a slider so you can set your level which helps when you are as bad at falling into trap skills.

I had that Enforcer skill for infinite ammo aced for a long time till I realized it makes you put your ammo bag in AWFUL places and you still have to reload if you come to the end of your magazine so 3 of your 10 seconds on free ammo are wasted.

But yeah Shadow Raid is infuriating. I've done it twice, and both times it took at least 10 tries and over 3/4 of those were due to random guards being able to see me through walls or noticing a bag of loot that was in the sewers even though they weren't near it.

Did Framing Frame on Hard full stealth once.

It was tough and to a certain degree highly frustrating due to there being to many guards not enough pagers but we got it down.

Also back to build information regardless of your core class, I have some abilities I consider required for anyone who is still leveling up. 7 points in Mastermind Unlock, Aced Cable Guy, Basic Fast Learner and Endurance. (Can can drop Fast Learner once you cap levels.)

5 points in enforcer. Unlock and Aced Transporter.

11-14 Points in ghost. Unlock, Basic Cat burglar, Aced Fast Hands, and Shinobi at least basic but can be really nice to have it Aced for certain situations.

Unfortunately this does seem to preclude you from getting top tier rewards from two classes though.

EDIT: Also Cable Guy is completely optional if you already have more than 10 million in spendable cash on hand, since you can just execute all the hostages if you don't care about money.



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Re: Payday 2 Discussion Thread
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2014, 06:31:16 PM »
here's me at lvl 100 - tech forcer with ghost tier 4 move bonus http://goo.gl/B2OwAu

it's nice.

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Re: Payday 2 Discussion Thread
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2014, 07:35:37 PM »
I dig it.

How does it feel to run around with the Best Armor mixed with the Armor skills from Tech?

I feel like you'd never lose your armor at that point.
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2014, 09:48:33 PM »
I dig it.

How does it feel to run around with the Best Armor mixed with the Armor skills from Tech?

I feel like you'd never lose your armor at that point.

I'm pretty much always the last to go down in a fight but even 272 armor evaporates pretty quickly in a DW fight. HoxHud helps because it tells me how long it will take to regen armor so I can check it and hide out until it pops back.

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Re: Payday 2 Discussion Thread
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2014, 12:32:51 AM »
I've run into an interesting issue lately and wondering if anyone has found a solution:

Whenever I am playing online, my game will crash the first time that I try to start a mission (regardless of whether hosting or not) and the first time that alarms are raised (regardless of hosting or not).  That said, it works fine in single player offline.  I have tried Google, but to no avail....

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Re: Payday 2 Discussion Thread
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2014, 12:48:17 AM »
no idea


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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2014, 12:07:34 PM »
I've run into an interesting issue lately and wondering if anyone has found a solution:

Whenever I am playing online, my game will crash the first time that I try to start a mission (regardless of whether hosting or not) and the first time that alarms are raised (regardless of hosting or not).  That said, it works fine in single player offline.  I have tried Google, but to no avail....

Do you use HoxHud?

4.2 kinda broke Payday 2 for a minute. They've since fixed the crashing issues.

Mayhaps that is the problem?

Otherwise I have no idea.
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Re: Payday 2 Discussion Thread
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2014, 12:09:49 PM »
I dig it.

How does it feel to run around with the Best Armor mixed with the Armor skills from Tech?

I feel like you'd never lose your armor at that point.

I'm pretty much always the last to go down in a fight but even 272 armor evaporates pretty quickly in a DW fight. HoxHud helps because it tells me how long it will take to regen armor so I can check it and hide out until it pops back.

I respecc'd to try the Tanknician but  haven't gotten in a truly tough firefight yet. We are planning on trying to do DW  Rats soon.
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Re: Payday 2 Discussion Thread
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2014, 12:56:51 PM »
For DW, I would use either a Thanatos + loco or judge or maxed out CAR-4 and loco or judge if other people are taking Thanatos.

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Re: Payday 2 Discussion Thread
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2014, 03:37:24 PM »
I've run into an interesting issue lately and wondering if anyone has found a solution:

Whenever I am playing online, my game will crash the first time that I try to start a mission (regardless of whether hosting or not) and the first time that alarms are raised (regardless of hosting or not).  That said, it works fine in single player offline.  I have tried Google, but to no avail....

Do you use HoxHud?

4.2 kinda broke Payday 2 for a minute. They've since fixed the crashing issues.

Mayhaps that is the problem?

Otherwise I have no idea.

Ooh, good call.  Should have checked that before uninstalling to reinstall....

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Re: Payday 2 Discussion Thread
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2014, 12:17:28 AM »

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Re: Payday 2 Discussion Thread
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2014, 11:53:53 AM »
I don't even.
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2014, 05:10:36 PM »
Lessons I learned the hard way
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