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: Order66 February 14, 2010, 01:35:59 AM
In your opinion what is the coolest magic item in Dungeons and Dragons? :-\

                                            
                                            
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: Boyos February 14, 2010, 08:08:49 PM
Flying carpet
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: Mckma February 14, 2010, 08:49:57 PM
I think my personal favorite might be the portable hole.  But I also feel like that is a bit of a stock answer and there is probably something else I like more but haven't remembered...
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: Flawless P February 15, 2010, 06:23:58 PM
The Amulet of Retributive Healing
I heal you and it heals me too!

Also there is another ring I don't remember the name but whenever someone hits you it forces a no save Shield Other affect between the two of you for that hit.
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: Shallazar February 15, 2010, 06:36:43 PM
Ring of sound, it turns metagaming into roleplaying!
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: Tadanori Oyama February 15, 2010, 06:43:42 PM
3.0 Ring of Jump.
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: Mckma February 15, 2010, 06:47:25 PM
3.0 Ring of Jump.

Reminded me of two of my favorite items, Boots of Striding and Springing and Ring of Sustenance.
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: Tadanori Oyama February 15, 2010, 07:03:49 PM
3.0 Ring of Jump.

Reminded me of two of my favorite items, Boots of Striding and Springing and Ring of Sustenance.

We had a halfling sorcerer with that combo who used to like to pair it with Experius Retreat. Not sure if those are supposed to stack (I think not) but back then I was young and foolish.
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: clockworkjoe February 15, 2010, 07:28:36 PM
Apparatus of Kwalish

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4815/dx20070612tacticstipsits.jpg)

there can be no other

I will destroy anyone who disses the apparatus
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: Mckma February 15, 2010, 08:13:59 PM
Apparatus of Kwalish

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4815/dx20070612tacticstipsits.jpg)

there can be no other

I will destroy anyone who disses the apparatus

I remember way back in the New World campaign where you started talking about a submersible device of some sort and I was really pleased that I instantly knew what you were talking about before you described it in heavy detail...
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: Boyos February 16, 2010, 12:50:15 AM
Flying Carpet is still better! /Flex Lets see this destroying!!!!!!
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: Setherick February 16, 2010, 09:07:31 AM
Apparatus of Kwalish

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4815/dx20070612tacticstipsits.jpg)

there can be no other

I will destroy anyone who disses the apparatus

You know one rust monster would sink Kwalish. That's a serious design flaw.

A rust monster that makes a successful touch attack with its antennae causes the target metal to corrode, falling to pieces and becoming useless immediately. The touch can destroy up to a 10-foot cube of metal instantly. Magic armor and weapons, and other magic items made of metal, must succeed on a DC 17 Reflex save or be dissolved. The save DC is Constitution-based and includes a +4 racial bonus.
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: Tadanori Oyama February 16, 2010, 11:11:20 AM
Flying Carpet is still better! /Flex Lets see this destroying!!!!!!

Couldn't you just put the carpet inside of the apparatus? Pimp the ride a little?
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: Boyos February 16, 2010, 01:38:02 PM
Yes you could. And use it to escape the rust monster since its cloth. And thus better!
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: Murph February 16, 2010, 01:48:05 PM
Apparatus of Kwalish

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4815/dx20070612tacticstipsits.jpg)

there can be no other

I will destroy anyone who disses the apparatus

Kwalish supremecy
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: Tadanori Oyama February 16, 2010, 01:54:42 PM
OH MY GOD!

Cast "Reduce" on the Apparatus and then stuff it inside a dead Owl Bear.
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: clockworkjoe February 16, 2010, 02:12:31 PM
rust monsters can't breathe underwater

also they are instinctively afraid of giant crabs, enemy crabs (massive damage)
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: Kroack February 16, 2010, 03:37:30 PM
rust monsters can't breathe underwater

also they are instinctively afraid of giant crabs, enemy crabs (massive damage)

I'll bet that there is a rust monster somewhere with the aquatic subtype.
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: Setherick February 16, 2010, 03:50:42 PM
rust monsters can't breathe underwater

also they are instinctively afraid of giant crabs, enemy crabs (massive damage)

I can stuff a rust monster into a bag of holding and sneak it on board. And then, Bam! (Just give it a little blast with the spice weasel!)
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: Tadanori Oyama February 16, 2010, 04:08:59 PM
What if you transmute the apparatus? I mean, changing iron into bronze isn't even that high a spell level is it? Or plastic. Or bronze wood, if you feel like dipping in on Eberron. And why bother with a Rust Monster in the bag of holding? Fill a pill with those feather charms that turn into anchors. Or do both and fill the thing with rust anchors. Even if they have waterbreathing let's see then avoid tetanus then.
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: Kroack February 16, 2010, 09:02:21 PM
What if you transmute the apparatus? I mean, changing iron into bronze isn't even that high a spell level is it? Or plastic. Or bronze wood, if you feel like dipping in on Eberron. And why bother with a Rust Monster in the bag of holding? Fill a pill with those feather charms that turn into anchors. Or do both and fill the thing with rust anchors. Even if they have waterbreathing let's see then avoid tetanus then.

What kind of anti-rust monster bigot are you?
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: clockworkjoe February 17, 2010, 12:03:22 AM
What if you transmute the apparatus? I mean, changing iron into bronze isn't even that high a spell level is it? Or plastic. Or bronze wood, if you feel like dipping in on Eberron. And why bother with a Rust Monster in the bag of holding? Fill a pill with those feather charms that turn into anchors. Or do both and fill the thing with rust anchors. Even if they have waterbreathing let's see then avoid tetanus then.

What kind of anti-rust monster bigot are you?

rust monsters are terrible
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: Boyos February 17, 2010, 12:32:35 AM
And thats why Fying Carpets are so much better. No worries of rust monsters. 
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: Mckma February 17, 2010, 12:59:47 AM
And thats why Fying Carpets are so much better. No worries of rust monsters. 

But you have moths.  Far more common.
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: Boyos February 17, 2010, 05:26:51 AM
Moth balls are easy to obtain compared to  transmtation wizards.
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: Shallazar February 17, 2010, 05:57:46 AM
Fire? Angry Genies?
Aladdin? Gale Force winds?

My vote is for Kwalish.
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: Dawnsteel February 17, 2010, 09:20:34 AM
Fire? Angry Genies?
Aladdin? Gale Force winds?

And where are you going to find a decent rug shampoo in D&D, I'd like to know?

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: Tadanori Oyama February 17, 2010, 11:52:58 AM
rust monsters are terrible

Have you used the 4E Rust Monsters out of the Monster Manual 2? I like them alot better. They don't destory equipment but instead convert it into the basic magical material of the game: residuum.

In the one shot I can for D&D Game Day there are some Rust Monsters. One of the players wanted to feed his equipment to it, have the others kill it, then use the residuum they harvested to make new equipment tailor suited for the dungeon. Didn't work since the pregens didn't come with rituals, but a decent idea.
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: Kroack February 17, 2010, 04:58:06 PM
What if you transmute the apparatus? I mean, changing iron into bronze isn't even that high a spell level is it? Or plastic. Or bronze wood, if you feel like dipping in on Eberron. And why bother with a Rust Monster in the bag of holding? Fill a pill with those feather charms that turn into anchors. Or do both and fill the thing with rust anchors. Even if they have waterbreathing let's see then avoid tetanus then.

What kind of anti-rust monster bigot are you?

rust monsters are terrible

You're dead to me.
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: clockworkjoe February 17, 2010, 05:19:31 PM
What if you transmute the apparatus? I mean, changing iron into bronze isn't even that high a spell level is it? Or plastic. Or bronze wood, if you feel like dipping in on Eberron. And why bother with a Rust Monster in the bag of holding? Fill a pill with those feather charms that turn into anchors. Or do both and fill the thing with rust anchors. Even if they have waterbreathing let's see then avoid tetanus then.

What kind of anti-rust monster bigot are you?

rust monsters are terrible

You're dead to me.

they are part and parcel of the old school "DM vs Player" adversarial playstyle that is terrible and dumb. They are products of metagaming on the part of the GM and add nothing interesting or unique to the game. In earlier editions they ruined PCs and in 4E they are speed bumps by themselves and TPK machines when added to other encounters. 
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: KallMeKip February 17, 2010, 06:43:20 PM
I used Rust monsters once so that the fighter Who dominated combat had to step back and let the wizard have a turn. They have their uses. On the not of the topic Apparatus and Sphere of anilation.
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: Boyos February 18, 2010, 12:07:37 AM
Fire? Angry Genies?
Aladdin? Gale Force winds?

My vote is for Kwalish.

My god what type of boaring campain are you running? You just listed 4 great reasons to play dnd. Rug cleaner? It's magical self cleaning or level 0 wizard presadiatation. Impossible to spell with my phone.
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: Order66 February 18, 2010, 07:16:55 PM
apparatus of kwalish > carpet of flying

rod of wonder > kwalish
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: KallMeKip February 18, 2010, 07:18:55 PM
Ahh but The rod of wonder is only epic some of the time, The Apparatus of Kwalish is epic 24-7
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: Order66 February 25, 2010, 11:51:30 PM
Ahh but The rod of wonder is only epic some of the time, The Apparatus of Kwalish is epic 24-7

your right

KWALISH ROCKS
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: malyss February 26, 2010, 02:47:53 PM
Immovable rod and decanter of endless water.

I > U
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: Mckma February 26, 2010, 02:54:18 PM
Immovable rod and decanter of endless water.

I > U

Hmm...  I bet there could be some really interesting combinations of those two...
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: malyss February 26, 2010, 02:55:31 PM
You can use them separately? (a whole new world of possibilities!!!!)
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: Setherick February 26, 2010, 05:52:17 PM
Ahh but The rod of wonder is only epic some of the time, The Apparatus of Kwalish is epic 24-7

I still think that I proved that one rust monster negates the epicness of Kwalish.
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: clockworkjoe February 26, 2010, 05:58:25 PM
Ahh but The rod of wonder is only epic some of the time, The Apparatus of Kwalish is epic 24-7

I still think that I proved that one rust monster negates the epicness of Kwalish.

that is incredibly dumb logic

I mean

If a magic item can be destroyed by a monster then it isn't epic or awesome?

I mean

wow

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: Order66 February 26, 2010, 07:05:58 PM
Ahh but The rod of wonder is only epic some of the time, The Apparatus of Kwalish is epic 24-7

I still think that I proved that one rust monster negates the epicness of Kwalish.

that is incredibly dumb logic

I mean

If a magic item can be destroyed by a monster then it isn't epic or awesome?

I mean

wow



i know right?
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: Boyos February 26, 2010, 10:58:54 PM
Ahh but The rod of wonder is only epic some of the time, The Apparatus of Kwalish is epic 24-7

I still think that I proved that one rust monster negates the epicness of Kwalish.

that is incredibly dumb logic

I mean

If a magic item can be destroyed by a monster then it isn't epic or awesome?

I mean

wow



JUST LIKE I SAID FOR THE MOTHS!
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: theoutsiders68 February 27, 2010, 06:03:50 AM
Hi Ben....

My favorite item is the simple bag of holding however add a bottle of air and climb in.

The wizard could then dim door or teleport the whole party around as they can share the bottle of air well at least up to six characters can.

So much fun

 
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: Order66 February 28, 2010, 06:58:31 PM
Hi Ben....

My favorite item is the simple bag of holding however add a bottle of air and climb in.

The wizard could then dim door or teleport the whole party around as they can share the bottle of air well at least up to six characters can.

So much fun

 

great idea!
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: Mckma February 28, 2010, 07:00:03 PM
Hi Ben....

My favorite item is the simple bag of holding however add a bottle of air and climb in.

The wizard could then dim door or teleport the whole party around as they can share the bottle of air well at least up to six characters can.

So much fun

 

great idea!

And then the wizard turns evil and drops it in a portable hole!
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: malyss March 01, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
That is a brilliant combination. I am going to give that out as loot and see if my players come up with the combination.

If they don't seem to be getting it, I may provide a situation that would help them think of it...
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: theoutsiders68 March 02, 2010, 01:51:02 PM
Also consider ring gates one strapped to the fighters back and one carried by a cleric or rougue...

If its a cleric ranged healing really nice and the rougue could attack through it....

Or another fighter

Just a fascinating item...

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: Setherick March 02, 2010, 05:59:26 PM
As long as we are talking about more common wondrous items, I always loved played shadow dancers and taking boots of spider climb (3.5E). This is more important in Ross' games where many (and I mean many) monsters attack from the ceiling.
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: Arje April 02, 2010, 08:36:47 AM
The correct answer is Sovereign Glue.

No one ever carries around universal solvent. Ever!

High level wizards should carry it around by the bucketful. Timestop + sovereign glue is always a winner. I can't tell you the things i've done with that combination.

I'll sovereign glue some moths to a rust monster, and then where will your precious apparatus and carpets be? hmmmm?
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: ArtfulShrapnel April 02, 2010, 10:17:15 AM
Hi Ben....

My favorite item is the simple bag of holding however add a bottle of air and climb in.

The wizard could then dim door or teleport the whole party around as they can share the bottle of air well at least up to six characters can.

So much fun

 

Didn't something strange happen when you teleport a bag of holding? Or was that only when you take it into extradimensional spaces?
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: Tadanori Oyama April 02, 2010, 12:05:45 PM
It's the Bag of Holding / Portable Hole combination that gets alot of attention. There's two results for placing one into the other and I can never remember which is which.

One ends with the bag and hole destroying themselves and everything in them. The other has the bag and hole destory themselves and everything in them but also sucks everything within 10ft of "ground zero" through a portal to a random place in the multi-verse (or the Astral Plane, I can't remeber).

Needless to say, it makes for a good escape option to have on hand.
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: Boyos April 02, 2010, 01:13:46 PM
The correct answer is Sovereign Glue.

No one ever carries around universal solvent. Ever!

High level wizards should carry it around by the bucketful. Timestop + sovereign glue is always a winner. I can't tell you the things i've done with that combination.

I'll sovereign glue some moths to a rust monster, and then where will your precious apparatus and carpets be? hmmmm?

I HAZ MOTH BALLS! I HAVE STATED THIS!
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: Arje April 02, 2010, 02:54:45 PM

I HAZ MOTH BALLS! I HAVE STATED THIS!

And i'll sovereign glue them to you. You and your moth testicles will never be apart again!
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: Tadanori Oyama April 02, 2010, 03:01:52 PM
So wait, if the moths are glued to the rust monster how will they reach the carpet? Not that a rust monster covered with moths isn't a fairly terrifying thought. Just, maybe they should be Dire Moths.
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: Boyos April 03, 2010, 12:45:47 AM
No one said anything bout Dire moths!
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: ethan_dawe April 05, 2010, 10:45:09 AM
Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity

no no....Ring of Warmth!

But seriously, if you are going for "coolness" rather than functionality or what-not, then the Apparatus would be pretty cool. Rod of Lordly Might also is pretty cool, if not terribly tough.
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: malyss April 05, 2010, 12:57:08 PM
It's the Bag of Holding / Portable Hole combination that gets alot of attention. There's two results for placing one into the other and I can never remember which is which.

One ends with the bag and hole destroying themselves and everything in them. The other has the bag and hole destory themselves and everything in them but also sucks everything within 10ft of "ground zero" through a portal to a random place in the multi-verse (or the Astral Plane, I can't remeber).

Needless to say, it makes for a good escape option to have on hand.

It's like dividing by zero.
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: Tadanori Oyama April 05, 2010, 01:33:05 PM
You know, it must be the Astral Plane because the story I first heard that involved it was a Fighter and a Ranger stuck in the Nine Hells. The wizard and the cleric are dead so nobody can cast and the Fighter decides to throw the bag into the hole with everybody gathered around, they get sucked into the Astral Plane and eventually manage to barter their way onto a Gith skiff and get home.
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: ThnJonWasAZmbie April 05, 2010, 01:39:46 PM
I've always been a pretty big fan of Immovable Rods.  All you need it 2 and you got a ladder to anywhere.
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: Tadanori Oyama April 05, 2010, 01:48:27 PM
I've always been a pretty big fan of Immovable Rods.  All you need it 2 and you got a ladder to anywhere.

That always struck me as a problem of ligistics. You don't have any footholds unless you use the rods right next to a wall and climbing without any weight support sucks.
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: malyss April 05, 2010, 04:24:20 PM
Why does everyone always want to use the rods for climbing? So many more interesting options...

I'm starting a new thread - this is worthy of its own.
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: ArtfulShrapnel April 05, 2010, 04:53:11 PM
I've always been a pretty big fan of Immovable Rods.  All you need it 2 and you got a ladder to anywhere.

That always struck me as a problem of ligistics. You don't have any footholds unless you use the rods right next to a wall and climbing without any weight support sucks.

That's only if you need your legs to climb. We're talking about badass rogues and warriors here. They should be more than capable of climbing with just their arms if they have a solid grip.
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: Tadanori Oyama April 05, 2010, 04:56:56 PM
I'm sure they could, I just can't imagine myself doing it. Be like doing dozens of one handed chin ups.
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: malyss April 06, 2010, 10:44:28 AM
I'm sure they could, I just can't imagine myself doing it. Be like doing dozens of one handed chin ups.

I could only imagine myself doing it...
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: ThnJonWasAZmbie April 06, 2010, 11:24:20 AM
I'm sure they could, I just can't imagine myself doing it. Be like doing dozens of one handed chin ups.

I could only imagine myself doing it...

I am now imagining you doing it.
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: ethan_dawe April 06, 2010, 12:10:23 PM
How about the cube of force?
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: Tadanori Oyama April 06, 2010, 12:33:48 PM
I'm sure they could, I just can't imagine myself doing it. Be like doing dozens of one handed chin ups.

I could only imagine myself doing it...

I am now imagining you doing it.

Because of his avatar I am imagining Bruce Campbell doing it.
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: ethan_dawe April 06, 2010, 12:50:46 PM
Bruce Campbell could do it!
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: Boyos April 06, 2010, 01:06:10 PM
Bruce Campbell as Ash would do it with his teeth.