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: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Kroack September 22, 2010, 09:05:22 PM
I'm looking at you aaron.

You know, I tried to get into Dr. Who and I did see a pretty cool episode about a spaceship called the titanic and it was pretty radical. I just don't really understand anything that's going on in the show at all.
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: Mckma September 22, 2010, 09:27:10 PM
Basically all I feel you need to understand is quirky-craziness is always going on...
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: Joven September 22, 2010, 10:04:24 PM
Its just fun scifi, as opposed to the more serious stuffy ones like star trek or whatever the kids are into nowadays.

A show thats at least self aware enough to know that techno-babble should sound cool, regardless if it even means anything to the character who said it.

Doctor: Must be a spatio-temporal hyperlink.
Mickey: What's that?
Doctor: No idea, I just made it up. Didn't want to say "Magic Door"

Although I didn't really like the last season, less fun, more trying to be serious, bad overall arc I think, and I really hate River Song (especially when she out-doctors the doctor) and I think the weeping angels should have been a one-off monster)
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: Mckma September 23, 2010, 12:50:10 AM
Its just fun scifi, as opposed to the more serious stuffy ones like star trek or whatever the kids are into nowadays.

A show thats at least self aware enough to know that techno-babble should sound cool, regardless if it even means anything to the character who said it.

Doctor: Must be a spatio-temporal hyperlink.
Mickey: What's that?
Doctor: No idea, I just made it up. Didn't want to say "Magic Door"

Although I didn't really like the last season, less fun, more trying to be serious, bad overall arc I think, and I really hate River Song (especially when she out-doctors the doctor) and I think the weeping angels should have been a one-off monster)

There was a lot of stuff I liked and didn't like about the newest season.  I enjoyed that the show had an altogether more "polished" look, and I really enjoyed the finale albeit there was some really cheesy stuff.

Interesting article on how someone thinks the final season should have been written (I would love to see this "season"):
http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/07/12/fixing-doctor-who-season-five-edition/
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: crash2455 September 23, 2010, 01:27:53 AM
I liked that Russel T Davies stopped writing episodes.  I never understood what was happening in any show he did (consequently, the Season Finales never made any goddamn sense).
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: beowuuf September 23, 2010, 02:28:39 AM

I like both the RTD and SM series, just as I enjoyed the old series when I was a kid :) Although I dipped in and out of Doctor Who as a kid, it was really Silverter McCoy and Ace that were the firts time I properly stuck with the series...sigh. Stupid cancellation.

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: Flawless P September 23, 2010, 11:59:17 AM
I really like the Family of Blood episodes, as well as Blink. Blink is actually something I plan to include in one of my future games.
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: crash2455 September 23, 2010, 12:31:18 PM
I think that episode is something everyone's going to include in future games.
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: beowuuf September 23, 2010, 01:51:26 PM

I check some D&D sub-forums from time to time, and someone was trying to figure out how to do the mechanics of the angels! And sadly, I tried to have a go at it too :)
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: Flawless P September 23, 2010, 02:23:29 PM

I check some D&D sub-forums from time to time, and someone was trying to figure out how to do the mechanics of the angels! And sadly, I tried to have a go at it too :)

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-109593.html
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: Flawless P September 23, 2010, 02:40:14 PM
and I really hate River Song (especially when she out-doctors the doctor)

Seriously! I hate her too! If you wanted the doctor to be a woman you should have regenerated him into one, instead of putting this cow into the story line.
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: Joven September 23, 2010, 02:59:17 PM
and I really hate River Song (especially when she out-doctors the doctor)

Seriously! I hate her too! If you wanted the doctor to be a woman you should have regenerated him into one, instead of putting this cow into the story line.

I think I saw that when they were looking for the new doctor they were considering Catherine Zeta Jones.
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: beowuuf September 23, 2010, 03:23:47 PM

Heresy! I love River Song, and Alex Kingston! :D

I'm interested to see where her character goes, and I've a sneaking suspicion that when we see what her eventual arc is, some people who hate her might look at her differently. Who knows!
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: Flawless P September 23, 2010, 04:02:17 PM

Heresy! I love River Song, and Alex Kingston! :D

I'm interested to see where her character goes, and I've a sneaking suspicion that when we see what her eventual arc is, some people who hate her might look at her differently. Who knows!

They are going to have to do something amazing with her to win me over.
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: Joven September 23, 2010, 05:05:03 PM
I didn't really have a problem with her in Silence in the Library, but then she came back as a fucking Mary Sue.
I couldn't be less interested in where her character goes (unless its into the core of a sun).
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: beowuuf September 23, 2010, 05:10:12 PM

Yeah, but I think River acts so annoying towards the Doctor exactly because he will have done that to her at first. The funny thing is River's relationship seems to run in reverse, odd bumps notwithstandings. So it is very possible that the Doctor's seen River at her best when they first met. I think there are many hints that the more the story goes on, the more she could actually be a pretty large villain. And that the only thing making her good is the fact the Doctor saw her as good from the start, and so beleives in her and tries to change her.

Just a theory.

And River's actions and the reactiosn to her are pretty logical. Rose Tyler was a massive Mary Sue from the word go that everyone seems fine with!

 
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: Flawless P September 23, 2010, 05:19:27 PM

Yeah, but I think River acts so annoying towards the Doctor exactly because he will have done that to her at first. The funny thing is River's relationship seems to run in reverse, odd bumps notwithstandings. So it is very possible that the Doctor's seen River at her best when they first met. I think there are many hints that the more the story goes on, the more she could actually be a pretty large villain. And that the only thing making her good is the fact the Doctor saw her as good from the start, and so beleives in her and tries to change her.

Just a theory.

And River's actions and the reactiosn to her are pretty logical. Rose Tyler was a massive Mary Sue from the word go that everyone seems fine with!

 

I'm not a big Rose fan but the few episodes with her I have seen I haven't seen her acting like a Mary Sue, more like a terrfied confused human. Well with the exception of Bad Wolf
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: BeyondSandrock September 23, 2010, 05:24:24 PM
I wouldn't say Rose was really a Mary Sue insert.  I think a lot of fans despise her because of romance angle that was presented during the first year of the 10th Doctor.  I never minded it as much since I was introduced to the show during NuWho, but I can understand why some people did not like her.  The companion whose story always aggravated me was Marthas.  She could have done so much more as a companion, yet they wasted her by having her pine for The Doctor during her entire run.  
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: Flawless P September 23, 2010, 05:32:58 PM
I wouldn't say Rose was really a Mary Sue insert.  I think a lot of fans despise her because of romance angle that was presented during the first year of the 10th Doctor.  I never minded it as much since I was introduced to the show during NuWho, but I can understand why some people did not like her.  The companion whose story always aggravated me was Marthas.  She could have done so much more as a companion, yet they wasted her by having her pine for The Doctor during her entire run.  

Martha was technically my frist companion, her scenes during the year that never was really made me change my opinion of her from Meh to Woot! If that sentence makes any sense.

Oh and I would like to take this opportunity to go on the record as a fan of Amelia.(Granted I will admit to being her "target" audience)
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: Joven September 23, 2010, 07:05:18 PM
Ya, despite my kinda dislike for the new season, I do like Amelia, and Rori, and even the new Doctor (though not as much as Tennant's).

One thing that kinda was weird to me about Martha was that the actress played a member of Torchwood during the dalek/cyberman thing, and then shows up again and now shes Martha. I liked her, but now that I think about it she was kinda wasted (at least she was better eye candy than Rose).
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: BeyondSandrock September 23, 2010, 07:53:36 PM
One thing that kinda was weird to me about Martha was that the actress played a member of Torchwood during the dalek/cyberman thing, and then shows up again and now shes Martha.

If I'm not mistaken they retconned Freema Agyemans Torchwood character from Army of Ghosts/Doomsday as being Marthas cousin.  As for Matt Smiths Doctor, he grew on me as the series progressed.  I'm still not terribly happy about the way RTD wrote the 10th Doctors regeneration in The End of Time.
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: crash2455 September 23, 2010, 08:03:16 PM
One thing that kinda was weird to me about Martha was that the actress played a member of Torchwood during the dalek/cyberman thing, and then shows up again and now shes Martha.

If I'm not mistaken they retconned Freema Agyemans Torchwood character from Army of Ghosts/Doomsday as being Marthas cousin.  As for Matt Smiths Doctor, he grew on me as the series progressed.  I'm still not terribly happy about the way RTD wrote the 10th Doctors regeneration in The End of Time.

Where he regenerated into himself?
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: BeyondSandrock September 23, 2010, 08:20:24 PM
No, not the "hand" regeneration that created the Meta-Crisis 10th Doctor and the DoctorDonna (Stolen Earth / Journey's End).  I'm referring to "I don't want to go" after the Doctor finishes visiting every companion one last time.
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: Joven September 23, 2010, 08:35:17 PM
Ya, the main reaction I've seen from people is it made him look kind of a whiney emo about it, specially after going through it a few times already he should be kinda used to the whole regeneration thing by now.

Plus the death itself was kinda contrived, who builds a door system like that anyway, and judging from him using the TARDIS on his better days his location/time stuff can be off, so giving him the benefit of the doubt it still would have taken at least several hours to a few days to find everyone in a point where he could do some doctor ex machina for them, during which he was pretty much fine, until he actually started to die.
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: Salkovich September 23, 2010, 09:04:32 PM
I read this thread and my head exploded.
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: Kroack September 23, 2010, 09:08:12 PM
what have i done?

(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2605/planetoftheapesending04.jpg)
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: beowuuf September 24, 2010, 01:49:04 AM

I just like everything, so it's all good :) It's just if you think about Rose's arc, the doctor basically grabs her as a companion for no real reason, shows her incredible things, and then falls in love with her. And she's so important, they have to cripple the next companion's character just to make the point of how important Rose is. As a UK person, I had every reason to get 'meh' at Rose since she was played by teen pop person Billy, but she was great in the roll so I was instantly ok with it, and Rose's arc. It's just when I've heard Rover or Amy being called Mary Sues, I look back and go 'why are they if...'

I really liked the end of the 10th doctor, even if the first part of that two parter was pretty weak. It's good to re-invest the regeneration with some cost. The Eccleston -> Tennant regernation looked like nothing, and the only reason it went a little wrong was because of the vortex stuff.

It's like 'meh, sure, he can save the world and get killed, no biggie'

It's nice to know that the doctor can feel like it's dying, especially since it would be a logical echo to those watching the series. I think the more he regenerates, probably the more experience he's had with exactly what he loses withit.
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: Flawless P September 24, 2010, 11:00:05 AM

I just like everything, so it's all good :) It's just if you think about Rose's arc, the doctor basically grabs her as a companion for no real reason, shows her incredible things, and then falls in love with her. And she's so important, they have to cripple the next companion's character just to make the point of how important Rose is. As a UK person, I had every reason to get 'meh' at Rose since she was played by teen pop person Billy, but she was great in the roll so I was instantly ok with it, and Rose's arc. It's just when I've heard Rover or Amy being called Mary Sues, I look back and go 'why are they if...'

I really liked the end of the 10th doctor, even if the first part of that two parter was pretty weak. It's good to re-invest the regeneration with some cost. The Eccleston -> Tennant regernation looked like nothing, and the only reason it went a little wrong was because of the vortex stuff.

It's like 'meh, sure, he can save the world and get killed, no biggie'

It's nice to know that the doctor can feel like it's dying, especially since it would be a logical echo to those watching the series. I think the more he regenerates, probably the more experience he's had with exactly what he loses withit.


I always attributed the "Meh" feeling that Eccelston gave off to him in a way, being at peace. You could always tell that the 9th Doctor was preoccupied with all his baggage, so when he went Eccleston -> Tennant  it was like releasing his baggage.(Only that didn't really happen)
It always seemed to me that the 9th Doctor was "ready" to be someone else.

You know though, thinking back on the episode I was pretty choked up by the whole scene.
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: beowuuf September 24, 2010, 01:27:31 PM

It was an emotional scene, I think marred a little by having to be a little meta and have the doctor explain to rose (and hence the new audience) how regeneration worked. Trying to reassure people the charascter kinda remains the same undermines losing that version.

I do like that the baggage, as you say, seemed to get released. Both that the Doctor wouldn't wipe the Daleks out when he had the chance (the Doctor seems to be on the fence back and forth over that one each regerneration!) and that a new face meant a new start away from the Tiemn War stuff that was still so fresh in the 9th doctor's psyche.

And I know there are obviously reasons for it show-wise, but I like to think the 11th doctor stopped flipping back in time at the start of his 11th regeneration in the seaosn finale because it was stil la painful thing to go back through that!
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: BeyondSandrock September 24, 2010, 04:27:45 PM
And I know there are obviously reasons for it show-wise, but I like to think the 11th doctor stopped flipping back in time at the start of his 11th regeneration in the season finale because it was still a painful thing to go back through that!

Which will especially be interesting considering the 11th Doctor has a guest appearance on The Sarah Jane Adventures this season.  Unless Barrowman returns as Jack Harkness this is the only companion of the 10th era that is being revisited. 

Beowuuf, question: Being from the UK, have you gotten a chance to play any of the Doctor Who Adventure games the BBC has been producing?  I managed to play the first installment but have been unable to play the rest because of the regional IP checker the installer has. (Still working on a way to circumvent it).
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: Joven September 24, 2010, 04:43:33 PM
http://www.hidemyass.com/proxy-list/search-8
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: beowuuf September 24, 2010, 04:57:31 PM
Beowuuf, question: Being from the UK, have you gotten a chance to play any of the Doctor Who Adventure games the BBC has been producing?  I managed to play the first installment but have been unable to play the rest because of the regional IP checker the installer has. (Still working on a way to circumvent it).

I keep seeing them announced and advertised, but haven't gotten into them to play them! I should probably take advantage of UK ISP and do that. Maybe leading up to the christmas special, if they're still available.
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: Flawless P September 24, 2010, 05:06:19 PM
http://www.hidemyass.com/proxy-list/search-8

This should work if they check before download, if they check during installation I would recommend booting up with you Network Cards disabled and see if maybe they will install, chance are they will give you an error message saying you must be connected to the internet to install, but it's worth a shot.
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: BeyondSandrock September 24, 2010, 05:24:21 PM
http://www.hidemyass.com/proxy-list/search-8

This should work if they check before download, if they check during installation I would recommend booting up with you Network Cards disabled and see if maybe they will install, chance are they will give you an error message saying you must be connected to the internet to install, but it's worth a shot.


There in lies the rub.  After successfully downloading with proxy [that's actually the site I used before, but thanks again Joven!] I disabled my network completely but the installer would not go through. It even went so far as to disable the startup on the first chapter that I had previously installed.  So short of dissecting the installer I'm probably going to have to wait for the pay-version.  But all things considered it probably will not be too much. Besides, UK residents have technically already paid for it so I understand the reasons of why it is region-locked.
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: beowuuf September 25, 2010, 02:41:04 AM

Sponger!

Then again, the tv licencing people hounded me when I didn't need a licence so I told them to go screw themselves, i then got a licence later when I actually needed one without prompting thank you very much, and now they are hounding me again because apparently the hounding department and the issuing department don't actually talk to each other or something, and the hounding department hound people every few years because god forbid someone doesn't actually watch live tv - they must be some form of lying communist or something.

So I say go for it!

As long as you buy Doctor Who DVD boxed sets.
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: Flawless P September 29, 2010, 01:49:24 PM
I'm signing up for nexflix in about two months, and at that point I will completely exhaust every Doctor Who anything they have in stock. It will be great.
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: BeyondSandrock September 29, 2010, 02:34:22 PM
I'm signing up for nexflix in about two months, and at that point I will completely exhaust every Doctor Who anything they have in stock. It will be great.

You're in luck then.  The Netflix instant play feature has all of the NuWho series (plus specials) and a good majority of ClassicWho episodes as well. I've personally gone through two of the classics episodes so far (The Aztecs [First Doctor] and The Three Doctors [First, Second, and Third Doctors]).
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: Flawless P September 29, 2010, 02:41:11 PM
Im getting it on my PS3 and I have been hearing some odd rumors about not everything thats on the online stream being available on the systems, do you know if this is true? ??? 
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: BeyondSandrock September 29, 2010, 04:39:21 PM
Not that I can tell.  I own a Wii (Did it for Zelda and Mario Kart, yes I'm a bad person) and so far all of the instant play catalog seems to be available to it.  The one issue I've had so far is the lack of a search function on the Wii version (and possibly a video quality issue.  I assume a PS3 or 360 with an HDMI connection will probably get a better picture). Also every title I've pulled up online for the instant queue has always shown up on the Wii and my iphone.
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: Flawless P September 29, 2010, 05:13:05 PM
I own a Wii (Did it for Zelda and Mario Kart, yes I'm a bad person)

Not as bad as me.(I did it for Pokemon Battle Revolution/Mario Kart)


Sponger!

Then again, the tv licencing people hounded me when I didn't need a licence so I told them to go screw themselves, i then got a licence later when I actually needed one without prompting thank you very much, and now they are hounding me again because apparently the hounding department and the issuing department don't actually talk to each other or something, and the hounding department hound people every few years because god forbid someone doesn't actually watch live tv - they must be some form of lying communist or something.

So I say go for it!

As long as you buy Doctor Who DVD boxed sets.

Wow I just did some research to find out exactly what the tv license is, and well WOW if the US gov't tried to charge $230 a year for tv there would be a riot!

It does however make sense, I mean getting that money brings in billions.

Did some maths.  Roughly $26,409,848,440 if the estimated figures for how many households their are in the US is accurate, also assuming all of them buy one. At the exchange rate from £145 to $229(assuming thats actually accurate)
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: beowuuf September 29, 2010, 05:31:14 PM

It is, indeed, alot.

Then again, the BBC has no adverts during shows, and no adverts in between shows except for advertising itself. So, you know, it all comes out in the wash really :D
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: Flawless P September 29, 2010, 06:45:23 PM

It is, indeed, alot.

Then again, the BBC has no adverts during shows, and no adverts in between shows except for advertising itself. So, you know, it all comes out in the wash really :D


So....how do you like have a werewolf for a Queen?

What? I'm just curious. ;D
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: beowuuf September 30, 2010, 02:18:26 AM

It keeps the other heads of state in line at official functions, if nothing else :D Doesn't seem to work to keep Prince Philip from doing crazy things, but hey ho!
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: BeyondSandrock September 30, 2010, 05:00:15 AM

It keeps the other heads of state in line at official functions, if nothing else :D Doesn't seem to work to keep Prince Philip from doing crazy things, but hey ho!

Do they by chance keep Lon Chaney in reserve as the Queens escort during official functions?
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: beowuuf September 30, 2010, 01:07:37 PM

Doing that Phantom of the Opera face is possibly less scary than some of the things that Price Philp has done. Next time I bump into the Queen at Sainsbury's I'll mention it :D
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: Flawless P September 30, 2010, 02:18:13 PM
I thought this would be the perfect place to show off my work computers backround pic. It is centered with a black outline so you can't see where the poster ends and the desktop begins, without that blown up look you get from stretch.
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/Flawless_P/awesome.jpg)

Only 1 person out of the 64 people who work in my department knew who this was.(Neither number includes me.)
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: Kroack September 30, 2010, 09:19:11 PM
cool... i guess?

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: BeyondSandrock September 30, 2010, 11:08:09 PM
If your by chance looking for a new background, may I suggest this:

(http://brighsidelair.wdfiles.com/local--files/admin:manage/tardis-asplosion.jpg)
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: Flawless P October 01, 2010, 02:48:45 PM
If your by chance looking for a new background, may I suggest this:
[spoiler]
(http://brighsidelair.wdfiles.com/local--files/admin:manage/tardis-asplosion.jpg)[/spoiler]

It is done
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: Mckma April 24, 2011, 01:24:01 AM
So that newest episode eh...

I kind of like the idea of some horror that you can only remember when you look at it...
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: Darksaw April 24, 2011, 01:26:36 AM
I really liked it, the new monster was quite good as well, very much reminded me of the Angels though.
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: Mckma April 24, 2011, 01:30:02 AM
I really liked it, the new monster was quite good as well, very much reminded me of the Angels though.

Yeah, well I think they might be kind of Moffat's babies as it were.

Also, the little I know of Marble Hornets, felt a little bit Slender Man-y...
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: Flawless P April 24, 2011, 02:00:22 PM
I am staunchly opposed to anything Weeping Angels outside of  "Blink".
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: Moondog April 24, 2011, 02:04:50 PM
I still don't understand why people love Dr. Who.
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: Flawless P April 24, 2011, 02:07:40 PM
I still don't understand why people love Dr. Who.

I have no way of explaining it, I just do. It is one of those things it doesn't represent he best of any genre or writing style but I just cannot stop watching it.

Also, no matter what your feelings on Doctor Who are Blink is pretty epic. Plus the Weeping Angels are waaaaay gameable.
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: clockworkjoe April 24, 2011, 02:20:27 PM
sonic screwdriver sounds like a drink that someone from the Jersey Shore would order.
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: Mckma April 24, 2011, 03:43:56 PM
What keeps me coming back is it honestly just feels fun.  Like said before, it isn't amazing, and it is definitely quite cheesy at times.  But I think it knows what it is, embraces it, and just has fun.  Sometimes the episodes fail in what they are trying to do, but in general it is just a lot of fun...

Long and short of it is, I guess, it's like playing RE5, not an amazing game, but pretty good.  Super cheesy at moments, but a hell of a lot of fun...
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: Fen Tiger April 24, 2011, 08:42:14 PM
Little behind on the new series as i only caught parts o it Saturday night. Watch it in the morning once ive downloaded it off the BBC i player. But from what ive seen so far ... its interesting.
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: doctorscraps April 26, 2011, 12:31:55 AM
Doctor Who to me is just plain fun. A campy sci fi romp where you don't even need to really think to hard about what's happening, because The Doctor usually does and vocalizes all the thinking for you.

ALL men want to be The Doctor. We ALL want to have access to an interdimensional traveling box. Not a man in this forum who wouldn't give his left nut to trade places with The Doctor.

There, I think that was my Fandom Soapboxing for the decade.
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: Flawless P May 05, 2011, 11:11:03 PM
WHO IN THE FUCK IS THAT LITTLE GIRL!

[SPOILER]YOU CAN'T JUST START THROWING IN PEOPLE WHO CAN REGENERATE AND NOT GIVE ME MORE INFO DAMMIT![/SPOILER]
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: Mckma May 06, 2011, 01:43:33 AM
WHO IN THE FUCK IS THAT LITTLE GIRL!

[SPOILER]YOU CAN'T JUST START THROWING IN PEOPLE WHO CAN REGENERATE AND NOT GIVE ME MORE INFO DAMMIT![/SPOILER]

[spoiler]At first I thought it was supposed to be presumed to be the "daughter" that Amy thought she was pregnant with but then thought she wasn't.  I mean wasn't that her in the pictures at the orphanage?  But I guess it doesn't actually make that much sense as I think she was the same girl as the one in the astronaut suit.[/spoiler]
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: BeyondSandrock May 06, 2011, 06:07:53 AM
[spoiler]There is some speculation that the girl may be Romana. Though I'm thinking that msy be a giant red herring, especially given Moffats' reluctance to bring back older villians/and or heros[/spoiler]
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: Arje May 06, 2011, 10:25:32 AM
[spoiler]I think it's a Silence/Time Lord Hyrbid. Maybe with some Pond thrown in for spice. I think it's purpose is sinister. I also think that the good man that River kills is: Rory. That's the only thing that feels grand enough in scope. And the only reason that River might stay in prison.[/spoiler]
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: Flawless P May 09, 2011, 12:45:04 AM
[spoiler]I think it's a Silence/Time Lord Hyrbid. Maybe with some Pond thrown in for spice. I think it's purpose is sinister. I also think that the good man that River kills is: Rory. That's the only thing that feels grand enough in scope. And the only reason that River might stay in prison.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]well clearly it can't be the doctor since it would be poor story telling to go with such an obvious choice[/spoiler]
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: Mckma May 09, 2011, 01:43:40 AM
[spoiler]I think it's a Silence/Time Lord Hyrbid. Maybe with some Pond thrown in for spice. I think it's purpose is sinister. I also think that the good man that River kills is: Rory. That's the only thing that feels grand enough in scope. And the only reason that River might stay in prison.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]well clearly it can't be the doctor since it would be poor story telling to go with such an obvious choice[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Not to mention we've seen his death already.  I mean I suppose they could go with some crazy time-travel/alternate reality theory, but that would be worse than having River kill the doctor in the first place...

In all honesty though, I'm not sure they would wrap up the River plot super soon, so Rory might not even be around when they do...[/spoiler]
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Flawless P May 10, 2011, 08:16:56 PM
[spoiler]I think it's a Silence/Time Lord Hyrbid. Maybe with some Pond thrown in for spice. I think it's purpose is sinister. I also think that the good man that River kills is: Rory. That's the only thing that feels grand enough in scope. And the only reason that River might stay in prison.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]well clearly it can't be the doctor since it would be poor story telling to go with such an obvious choice[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Not to mention we've seen his death already.  I mean I suppose they could go with some crazy time-travel/alternate reality theory, but that would be worse than having River kill the doctor in the first place...

In all honesty though, I'm not sure they would wrap up the River plot super soon, so Rory might not even be around when they do...[/spoiler]

[spoiler] sure we saw it but, we didnt see who was in the suit for sure, it easily could have been river.[/spoiler]

But that would be dumb...

also, how long is the common courtesy of "spoiler" tags necessary? When do we all just say screw it and whatnot?
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Mckma June 05, 2011, 11:30:50 PM
Why is it getting so complicated?  It's almost getting into Lost territory with the number of unanswered questions...
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Flawless P June 06, 2011, 12:56:24 AM
Just watched ep 7.

I hate River even more now.

I'm glad I know how that bitch dies.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: BeyondSandrock June 06, 2011, 01:41:09 AM
Why is it getting so complicated?  It's almost getting into Lost territory with the number of unanswered questions...

Because Grand Moff Stephen is now the showrunner, so everything major plot must have at least five thousand steps for it to become clear.  I actually liked this episode a lot and thought the execution overall was rather brilliant.  But it did bring up one question though:

[spoiler]Does anybody else find The Doctors and Rivers relationship vaguely creepy now that it's been revealed that she's Amy's and Rory's daughter?[/spoiler]
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Joven June 06, 2011, 05:30:54 PM
Just watched ep 7.

I hate River even more now.

I'm glad I know how that bitch dies.

I didn't even think it was possible for me to hate her more, and yet, now I do. What was so compelling about her character that they felt the need to cram her in and exponentially elevate her importance with each appearance.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Mckma June 06, 2011, 10:48:16 PM
Just watched ep 7.

I hate River even more now.

I'm glad I know how that bitch dies.

I didn't even think it was possible for me to hate her more, and yet, now I do. What was so compelling about her character that they felt the need to cram her in and exponentially elevate her importance with each appearance.

I feel like her character concept is interesting (in that she and the Doctor go in opposite directions through time), but she's written in a completely unlikeable way.  Personally she doesn't bother me too much, but each episode she is more and more annoying...
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Flawless P June 07, 2011, 01:35:04 PM
Although when she whispered  to the doctor who she really is a small part of me had hoped she would be the master
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Wooberman June 07, 2011, 04:41:58 PM
Although when she whispered  to the doctor who she really is a small part of me had hoped she would be the master

I've got a feeling that Madame Kovarian is the master.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: FrodoLlama July 20, 2011, 10:22:40 PM
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: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Kroack July 21, 2011, 09:44:33 PM
well uhh. Doctor Who.

i was watching an episode and it had aliens that you forgot about as soon as you looked away. kind of gave me a slenderman vibe too in their suits and shit.

but uhh, they reminded me of another alien with the same freaking gimmick. those angel things.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Flawless P July 22, 2011, 12:02:05 PM
The Silence and The Weeping Angels are somewhat similar but either way I think they are both awesome. Well the Weeping Angels were awesome in Blink but after that they were lame.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Kroack July 22, 2011, 01:28:12 PM
I'm a bit confused why the silence just disappeared after the season premier. I mean, they can't all be dead.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Joven July 22, 2011, 01:43:41 PM
Because maybe at some point they got tired of being killed on sight and went into hiding, and when people cant really remember you, that would make it kinda easy to never be heard from again.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Kroack July 22, 2011, 02:00:41 PM
true
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: FrodoLlama July 22, 2011, 04:54:03 PM
Note: the following contains spoilers for Episode 12 of Series 5 and Episodes 1 and 2 of Series 6.

I don't think the Silence are done for. It's clear that at least one still exists and looks at Amy at the beginning of Episode 1 (immediately before the Doctor is shot), which occurs in modern times. Also, in Series 5 Episode 12 ("The Pandorica Opens") a strange voice to whom no actor has yet been attributed says "Silence will fall", cauing the TARDIS to explode. While the Silence have "fallen" from their previous status as humanity's puppet-masters, I'm under the impression that Moffat's not finished with their signifigance in the season or its plot-arc. 
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Mckma July 22, 2011, 05:01:02 PM
Note: the following contains spoilers for Episode 12 of Series 5 and Episodes 1 and 2 of Series 6.

I don't think the Silence are done for. It's clear that at least one still exists and looks at Amy at the beginning of Episode 1 (immediately before the Doctor is shot), which occurs in modern times. Also, in Series 5 Episode 12 ("The Pandorica Opens") a strange voice to whom no actor has yet been attributed says "Silence will fall", cauing the TARDIS to explode. While the Silence have "fallen" from their previous status as humanity's puppet-masters, I'm under the impression that Moffat's not finished with their signifigance in the season or its plot-arc.

Well, we saw the angels again, so I kind of expect to see the silence again...
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Kroack July 23, 2011, 01:16:06 PM
Note: the following contains spoilers for Episode 12 of Series 5 and Episodes 1 and 2 of Series 6.

I don't think the Silence are done for. It's clear that at least one still exists and looks at Amy at the beginning of Episode 1 (immediately before the Doctor is shot), which occurs in modern times. Also, in Series 5 Episode 12 ("The Pandorica Opens") a strange voice to whom no actor has yet been attributed says "Silence will fall", cauing the TARDIS to explode. While the Silence have "fallen" from their previous status as humanity's puppet-masters, I'm under the impression that Moffat's not finished with their signifigance in the season or its plot-arc.

I thought s06e01 was in 1969
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: FrodoLlama July 23, 2011, 02:36:44 PM
Note: the following contains spoilers for Episode 12 of Series 5 and Episodes 1 and 2 of Series 6.

I don't think the Silence are done for. It's clear that at least one still exists and looks at Amy at the beginning of Episode 1 (immediately before the Doctor is shot), which occurs in modern times. Also, in Series 5 Episode 12 ("The Pandorica Opens") a strange voice to whom no actor has yet been attributed says "Silence will fall", cauing the TARDIS to explode. While the Silence have "fallen" from their previous status as humanity's puppet-masters, I'm under the impression that Moffat's not finished with their signifigance in the season or its plot-arc.

I thought s06e01 was in 1969

S6E1 was set in two time periods. At the beginning, there's modern day, where the Doctor, River, Amy, and Rory meet. Then, there's 1969, where they all go.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Flawless P July 24, 2011, 02:30:19 AM
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Season_6


I think that was a joke to the fact that Season 6 of the original series was filmed in 1969
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Kroack July 25, 2011, 02:02:53 AM
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Season_6


I think that was a joke to the fact that Season 6 of the original series was filmed in 1969

what a coincidence. actually I was just being ignorant.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: FrodoLlama July 26, 2011, 10:59:35 PM
The BBC website has brief synopses of Series 6 Part 2, alongside a reasonably interesting long trailer.
They also released a teaser trailer of a skeleton (presumably the Doctor's) holding a dying sonic screwdriver.
You know, from the BBC's S6P2 trailer, I now have a fledgling theory that Madame Kovarian is somehow River Song. Even knowing how River dies (or rather, lives), there's any number of plot devices Moffat could pull to achieve this, although I doubt it'll be the eventual case.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Mckma July 27, 2011, 12:07:12 AM
The BBC website has brief synopses of Series 6 Part 2, alongside a reasonably interesting long trailer.
They also released a teaser trailer of a skeleton (presumably the Doctor's) holding a dying sonic screwdriver.
You know, from the BBC's S6P2 trailer, I now have a fledgling theory that Madame Kovarian is somehow River Song. Even knowing how River dies (or rather, lives), there's any number of plot devices Moffat could pull to achieve this, although I doubt it'll be the eventual case.

Is there a first air date?  I know it's fall, but didn't know when...
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Kroack July 27, 2011, 07:40:58 AM
The BBC website has brief synopses of Series 6 Part 2, alongside a reasonably interesting long trailer.
They also released a teaser trailer of a skeleton (presumably the Doctor's) holding a dying sonic screwdriver.
You know, from the BBC's S6P2 trailer, I now have a fledgling theory that Madame Kovarian is somehow River Song. Even knowing how River dies (or rather, lives), there's any number of plot devices Moffat could pull to achieve this, although I doubt it'll be the eventual case.

They do look awfully familiar...
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: FrodoLlama July 27, 2011, 09:37:00 AM
There seems to be no exact date, but I do recall hearing that it was returning in August. I don't remember whether the source was credible, though.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: beowuuf July 27, 2011, 10:28:32 AM

If River can regenerate, then there is no reason she couldn't grow up to be Kovarian and evil first, and then regret her life and become the nicer River Song later.

However, [spoiler]the British trailer actually has River in that outfit. Though it could be a Moffat double bluff, that would be a huge spoiler. I can't imagine he'd let that one through unless it's true and revealed almost instantly in episode 8.[/spoiler]
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: BeyondSandrock July 27, 2011, 10:42:14 AM

If River can regenerate, then there is no reason she couldn't grow up to be Kovarian and evil first, and then regret her life and become the nicer River Song later.

However, [spoiler]the British trailer actually has River in that outfit. Though it could be a Moffat double bluff, that would be a huge spoiler. I can't imagine he'd let that one through unless it's true and revealed almost instantly in episode 8.[/spoiler]

Yeah, Moffat likes to keep his audience guessing so I don't think we'll have an answer right away. Though I'm still pretty convinced that the 'good man' River kills will turn out to be [spoiler]Rory.[/spoiler]
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Joven July 27, 2011, 10:43:17 AM
Or another residual crack from the TARDIS exploding engulfs her and shes eliminated retroactively from all continuity...well, I can hope.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Flawless P July 27, 2011, 04:38:21 PM
And there was much rejoicing.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Kroack July 27, 2011, 10:41:06 PM

If River can regenerate, then there is no reason she couldn't grow up to be Kovarian and evil first, and then regret her life and become the nicer River Song later.

However, [spoiler]the British trailer actually has River in that outfit. Though it could be a Moffat double bluff, that would be a huge spoiler. I can't imagine he'd let that one through unless it's true and revealed almost instantly in episode 8.[/spoiler]

Yeah, Moffat likes to keep his audience guessing so I don't think we'll have an answer right away. Though I'm still pretty convinced that the 'good man' River kills will turn out to be [spoiler]Rory.[/spoiler]

well river is little girl and little girl was astronaut right? so doesn't river kill the doctor?
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: FrodoLlama July 28, 2011, 09:40:54 AM

If River can regenerate, then there is no reason she couldn't grow up to be Kovarian and evil first, and then regret her life and become the nicer River Song later.

However, [spoiler]the British trailer actually has River in that outfit. Though it could be a Moffat double bluff, that would be a huge spoiler. I can't imagine he'd let that one through unless it's true and revealed almost instantly in episode 8.[/spoiler]

Yeah, Moffat likes to keep his audience guessing so I don't think we'll have an answer right away. Though I'm still pretty convinced that the 'good man' River kills will turn out to be [spoiler]Rory.[/spoiler]

well river is little girl and little girl was astronaut right? so doesn't river kill the doctor?

The little girl escaped the astronaut suit. It's now empty. Unless she gained a means of travelling through time and shot the Doctor before leaving the suit, or else just returned to it after a while, she couldn't have shot the Doctor. Besides, River not only seemed surprised at the astronaut's attack on the Doctor in present day, but shot at it herself, which suggests that either she doesn't remember shooting the Doctor or that it's not her in the astronaut suit.

Also, can River regenerate? Sure, she can pull off the whole lightshow and heal herself, but Adult River looks like Child River. If she could pull off the entire regenerative process and change into another person, surely it would be made more obvious. Perhaps this is a problem faced by [spoiler]partial Time Lords.[/spoiler] However, it does make sense that she has multiple lives and simply hasn't used them yet, in the context of "Forest of the Dead" where she tells the Tenth Doctor that completing the circuit (or whatever it was they were attempting) would kill him, even though he still had lives left to regenerate into. Another question left unanswered is why she needed to pseudoregenerate in the first place. She said that she was dying, but becaues of what was never actually revealed.

Also also, it's seeming more and more likely that Rory is the "Good Man", especially since [spoiler] the Eleventh Doctor and Amy have both been signed on to do Series 7, and as of yet, Rory hasn't.[/spoiler] I sincerly hope Moffat is trying to trick us, because it seems a bit too predictable right now.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: beowuuf July 28, 2011, 01:19:06 PM

Though river does say 'oh, of course not' after finishing shooting, which seems to imply she realises it was impossible to kill the astronaut, and was just caught in the heat of the moment. Again, nothing says it couldn't be a double bluff from Moffat to make everyone assume River was in the suit.

: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Mckma July 28, 2011, 03:33:57 PM
Regardless of whatever the plan is, I'm just hoping it is presented cleanly and well.  I want questions answered, or at least given enough information that one can make a reasonable assumption.  I don't want to think too much about it (this is not one of my "think about it" shows), though I would prefer if it was not overly heavy-handed...
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: beowuuf July 28, 2011, 04:06:18 PM

I think he's been good for revealing things cleanly as it's gone along, while still leaving you to guess what the next question's answer is. We knew what the crack was, and then what caused it, and then what that actually meant last year. And by the end of that, the only question was 'what was the silence.' This year we know how the doctor dies, and who the silence are, and then who river actually is. So we should get to know what all of those actually mean later. Hopefully. What the next question is that leads us to the new series I don't know, but I'm sure it will be a new question!
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Kroack July 28, 2011, 09:30:17 PM
Regardless of whatever the plan is, I'm just hoping it is presented cleanly and well.  I want questions answered, or at least given enough information that one can make a reasonable assumption.  I don't want to think too much about it (this is not one of my "think about it" shows), though I would prefer if it was not overly heavy-handed...

they called me the face of boe



also the doctor has been mucking around in his own timestream or whatever so there's that


and has anyone ever actually considered the sheer amount of people who have died on the Doctor's excursions? It's a lot of people. Every single goddamn episode you can count on at least 2-3 people dying on average. Sometimes it's a lot more and sometimes it's none at all, but generally, the Doctor fails to save most people's lives. Just ranting over here. 
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: FrodoLlama July 29, 2011, 08:35:00 AM
Regardless of whatever the plan is, I'm just hoping it is presented cleanly and well.  I want questions answered, or at least given enough information that one can make a reasonable assumption.  I don't want to think too much about it (this is not one of my "think about it" shows), though I would prefer if it was not overly heavy-handed...

they called me the face of boe



also the doctor has been mucking around in his own timestream or whatever so there's that


and has anyone ever actually considered the sheer amount of people who have died on the Doctor's excursions? It's a lot of people. Every single goddamn episode you can count on at least 2-3 people dying on average. Sometimes it's a lot more and sometimes it's none at all, but generally, the Doctor fails to save most people's lives. Just ranting over here.

Yep. He's been surrounded by so much death, it's practically a part of him. According to the radio play "Scherzo", the Time Lords believed the Doctor had companions as memento mori, reminders of death and his own mortality. According to "A Death in the Family", he has something like a calendar of the days where his companions die. He brings destruction with him, regardless of where he goes, and I seem to recall the Tenth Doctor having some sad moments over the amount of death his presence has wrought over the years.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Kroack July 29, 2011, 03:52:50 PM
i would like to see an episode where the doc is totally ptsd and just fucked up. For the most part he glosses over people's deaths and is fine the next episode.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: BeyondSandrock July 29, 2011, 05:30:59 PM
i would like to see an episode where the doc is totally ptsd and just fucked up. For the most part he glosses over people's deaths and is fine the next episode.

See the beginning of the 6th Doctor's run (Colin Baker), in which he tries to choke his companion to death after regenerating.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: beowuuf July 31, 2011, 02:06:33 AM

Well he is 900 years old now. He's used to that. For the latest hint of it, you have the end of 'A Good Man Goes to war...' with the female soldier at the end. Instead, you get more subtle glimpses by the fact that he's darkened over the whole run, is someone who has to choose to be good by his own admission and live by rules, and has a dark side that basically tried to kill him and all Amy/Rory in the dream Lord episode. If you want to see an extreme reaction to all the death, instead see unbridled joy and how much it means to him when no one dies. Ie The Doctor Dances.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Flawless P August 30, 2011, 11:47:12 AM
So "Let's Kill Hitler" was good. At least I think so.

Endeared River to me, she was funny and not super annoying for once.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Joven August 30, 2011, 01:14:21 PM
Nah, she was still really annoying. She wasn't as bad before she regenerated, but her whole regeneration sequence was annoying.  Maybe her character wasnt as annoying in the episode (any other character and it would have been a fun nazi terrorizing romp), but since it was based around shoving her down our throats some more, overall it made me hate her more.

[spoiler]Also the whole gun/banana/loaded/unloaded thing was OK, but she just happened to be carrying the uberdeath poison, had it on her lips, which survived her regeneration, and doesnt effect her but transfers with the slightest touch...[/spoiler]

Actually, on whole the medical things of Dr Who always annoys me, presumably the tardis should have cures for pretty much every disease ever, and the most advanced medical life support systems possible, but at best the 'doctor' uses whatever crap he has on hand in the time of where he is, and is surprised that people around him die of simple stuff all the time.  Granted, they cant just have him swoop in with the super duper phoenix down all the time, but they could at least make some effort to somewhat explain why he almost never can heal anyone of anything.

Kinda like weapons and Torchwood, specially in season 3, where they have their big super tricky plan to finally force everyone to let them have a confrontation with the evil aliens since they're the experts...only to just shoot at it, and fail, not even because of highly advanced alien technology or interference or anything, just cause there was freaking bullet proof glass there...I'm just waiting for them in season 4 to try and punch the miracle (not whats causing it, just the concept) to death.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Flawless P August 30, 2011, 02:13:04 PM
Although I found the whole save him via remaing regenerations thing to be a horribly cotrived bull shit excuse for her not regenerating back after she saved the 10th Doctor.
Also he fucked up big time by bringing up the limit again. All they had to do was call the 13 regen limit a rule not a fact and boom no more worries about making up a plot to hastily explain why he can regen from 13 to 14. Hopefully she gave him all of her remaining regenerations so he gets a fresh start as it were.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Mckma August 30, 2011, 04:18:11 PM
So after watching this episode, I feel like I need to go back and basically watch every episode with the 11th Doctor again.  There's just so much stuff to try and follow and having weeks/months between episodes (not to mention school and all the other media I consume) I keep forgetting stuff and feel more confused than I ought too...
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: FrodoLlama September 01, 2011, 04:12:29 PM
Although I found the whole save him via remaing regenerations thing to be a horribly cotrived bull shit excuse for her not regenerating back after she saved the 10th Doctor.

Actually, River said in Forest of the Dead that the [spoiler]electric shock (which killed her)[/spoiler] would be deadly enough to kill the Doctor and burn out all of his remaining lives. Even if she did have her regenerations, she'd still die. However, it wouldn't make much sense that she'd still be in the typical River-body when she could still regenerate between when 11 sees her and 10 does.

Also, the 13 regenerations thing is a fact. The Deadly Assassin, The Twin Dilemma, The Five Doctors, Unregenerate!, Zagreus, The Shadows of Avalon and the TV Movie all say the same, and nothing really refutes the idea. Of course, it's likely the show will find a way to get to Doctor 14, but that's a bridge to cross when we reach it. Besides, after [spoiler]being thought into existence by Amy[/spoiler] and [spoiler]being super-healed by River[/spoiler]. I'm not sure whether the Doctor's still technically the eleventh out of thirteen or if he might have restarted. After all, [spoiler]the Master wanted the Doctors regenerations in the Movie, which suggests they can be transferred, and River gave him the equivalent of nine extra lives in energy (Assuming from Mel's comments that she grew up, regenerated into the young girl, regenerated into Mel, and then regenerated into River as we know her today)[/spoiler].
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Kroack September 05, 2011, 03:59:35 PM
keep in mind it's just a show.
maybe we should just relax?

but yeah, i'm confused.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Mckma September 05, 2011, 04:52:19 PM
So another episode with very creepy things...
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: joe September 06, 2011, 05:13:40 PM
It was full of very creepy things, but when the source of creepy things was revealed and [spoiler]everyone turned back from being dolls[/spoiler] I felt it just became lame.  I think that Gattis understands what things are scary [spoiler]loss of self, echoey children's singing, weird moving dolls[/spoiler] but has no idea why they are scary.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: FrodoLlama September 07, 2011, 04:43:46 PM
I found the dolls a bit boring. They had a bit of a Gasmaskchild appeal, but they weren't especially frightening. Because of the trailer, I was expecting a big, complicated "Chimes of Midnight" story about dying and being resurrected over and over again, but instead I got... this. 

Also, I highly enjoyed the reference to The Seven Keys To Doomsday.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: Shallazar September 30, 2011, 02:56:27 AM
Just getting in to Doctor Who, started with the 5th, then skipped to the 10th doctor, and a smattering of the 1st season of the 11th. Currently I'm on the second part of Daleks in Manhattan.
It's a pretty exciting show I guess. I mainly watch it while playing Minecraft.

I'm going to attempt to go as the 11th doctor for Halloweenier. Just thought I should let you all know that I too like the doctor.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: crash2455 September 30, 2011, 09:58:46 PM
Just getting in to Doctor Who, started with the 5th, then skipped to the 10th doctor, and a smattering of the 1st season of the 11th. Currently I'm on the second part of Daleks in Manhattan.
It's a pretty exciting show I guess. I mainly watch it while playing Minecraft.

I'm going to attempt to go as the 11th doctor for Halloweenier. Just thought I should let you all know that I too like the doctor.

I'm surprised you never watched any of the 4th.  Baker is the most iconic Doctor.  Also some of his episodes were written by Douglas Adams.

Doctor costumes are as cheap as they are unrecognizable, as they are just clothes (unless you have show-specific props).  A couple years ago I went to a Halloween party as the 10th Doctor.  A lot of people thought I was just dressed up really nice.
: Re: Dr. Who Idolization Thread
: BeyondSandrock September 30, 2011, 10:54:49 PM
Doctor costumes are as cheap as they are unrecognizable, as they are just clothes (unless you have show-specific props).  A couple years ago I went to a Halloween party as the 10th Doctor.  A lot of people thought I was just dressed up really nice.

If you are needing some ideas for costumes, here's a list of items that can help for each generation:

1st Doctor:   A walking cane, white wig and a smug sense of superiority.
2nd Doctor:  A bowl haircut, slide whistle and the eyes of a madman.
3rd Doctor:   A frilled shirt, a yellow roadster and a love for techno-babble.
4th Doctor:   A long multicolored scarf, a big white-guy fro and insatiable love of Jelly Babies.
5th Doctor:   Brainy specs, a stalk of celery and an obsession with Cricket.
6th Doctor:   Stolen Technicolor dreamcoat, 2nd generation white-guy fro and piss-poor writing (televised stories only).
7th Doctor:   A question-mark shaped umbrella, a Panama hat and a look in your eye that states "No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die".
8th Doctor:   A bewildered look, Victorian-era clothing and a history that is mainly passed down through oral tradition.
9th Doctor:   A leather jacket, a thousand-yard stare and desire to see the fantastic in everything.
10th Doctor: Anything you can get your hands on.
11th Doctor: Anything you deem 'cool'.
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: FrodoLlama October 01, 2011, 10:25:41 PM
Alright, for The Wedding of River Song, I loved the Doctor's escape from death!
And the Question. Oh, that couldn't have been any better. Now, we just have to wait until Christmas. Then, until Easter. This two-part season is a pretty solid idea. I don't exactly appreciate having two waits, but there's something to be said for streyching thirteen episodes over two seasons (in both meanings of the word).

Overall, I'd put this season in the same high esteem as Series 1 with 9th Doctor Christopher Eccleston- the days when the effects were good but not the focus, and the plots were amazing. This season was a collection of decent and good stories sandwiched between one massive, amazing arc. Can't wait for Season 7 (Part 1?).
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: Mckma October 16, 2011, 05:03:08 PM
So yeah, I was behind and just saw the last two episodes yesterday and today.  Liked them and there's just such a fun pacing that a number of the finales have, like this one where there was basically the last 2-3 minutes where you see it come together...

Actually, it's very reminiscent of Mission: Impossible, which is another great show...
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: Salkovich October 19, 2011, 07:37:53 AM
I have become one of you.
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: Flawless P October 19, 2011, 12:02:40 PM
I have become one of you.
Yes, good, good. Mwhahahahahahahahahahhahahah
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: Darksaw November 01, 2011, 11:44:59 AM
I can't spoiler tag this image, so I'm just going to direct link to it. Don't click if you haven't seen the latest season!

http://i.imgur.com/dpXEG
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: Mckma November 01, 2011, 12:24:04 PM
I can't spoiler tag this image, so I'm just going to direct link to it. Don't click if you haven't seen the latest season!

http://i.imgur.com/dpXEG

A nice little recap...
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: ThadExMachina November 21, 2011, 01:47:22 AM
Ah. So, this thread exists.
I might as well move in all my stuff.

Y'know what's great? How many classic Doctor Who serials you can watch over on Dailymotion. I'm currently in the midst of "The Two Doctors," with Colin Baker and Patrick Troughton. Fun stuff.
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: Flawless P November 28, 2011, 02:27:07 PM
I have yet to successfully finish anything before the 8th doctor.
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: beowuuf November 28, 2011, 02:37:27 PM

I guess it was easier to watch them when they were first on! I'd say start with the 7th Doctor and go backwards. Partially because I love Sylvester McCoy, and partially because at least it is the next oldest incarnation and doens't quite suffer the same pacing and effects as the really old stuff does. Well, not as much!

Hmm, though can I suggest starting with the first advenutures with Ace and not the sillier start of the 7th doctor
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: ThadExMachina November 29, 2011, 01:02:42 AM
The audio plays that Big Finish puts out make me far too happy.

Paul McGann's one-off TV movie was the first Doctor Who story I ever saw (yeah, I know... poor me, but his performance was great nonetheless), and the Eighth Doctor audios have made him one of my favorite Doctors.

Plus, I'm a sucker for a radio show. I blame The Shadow (although the pulp novel version was better than the radio version, but nevermind).

And very soon they'll be bringing back Tom Baker in the same way. Wooo!
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: FrodoLlama December 17, 2011, 04:36:33 PM
I loved the TV Movie, and I'm sad that Big Finish's Divergent Universe plotline was cut in half by 2005's resurrection of the show. I've got a whole bunch of the radio plays, and my personal favorite's a tie between "A Death in the Family" and "The Natural History of Fear".
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: BeyondSandrock February 12, 2012, 03:54:58 AM
I'm usually all for crossovers, but seeing this has made me a little uncertain:

(http://brighsidelair.wdfiles.com/local--files/admin%3Amanage/Who%20Trek.jpg)

More information: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/02/10/scoop-doctor-who-star-trek-official-crossover/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/02/10/scoop-doctor-who-star-trek-official-crossover/)
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: Flawless P February 12, 2012, 01:05:48 PM
How would this be anything other than "slit your wrists because you life is complete awesome?"
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: Shallazar February 13, 2012, 02:38:39 AM
Their missing waists concern me the most.

I feel nauseous just looking.
Dang perspective.
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: edwardian_adventurer January 01, 2013, 04:37:56 PM
It took me way to long to find this thread.

Who (no pun intended) here has tried the Adventures in Time and Space RPG? I'm wanting to run some Doctor Who games, but I want to focus more on a classic series feel rather than a New Who feel. I'm thinking about modifying the GUMSHOE system to try for an investigative sci-fi feel.
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: BeyondSandrock January 01, 2013, 05:15:46 PM
I've been looking into possibly picking up a copy at some point. I have run a couple of Doctor Who games for Tom and David using Mutants and Masterminds previously which worked out pretty well. Though most of the storylines revolved around NuWho (which I'm now just catching up on the old starting with the Hartnell serials).