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D&D 4th ed > 3.5
« on: March 10, 2011, 09:19:14 AM »
just stating the facts, bitches

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Re: Re: D&D 4th ed > 3.5
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2011, 07:32:02 PM »
Funny, I literally just finished listening to the episode about posting about why games suck on a forum.

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Re: D&D 4th ed > 3.5
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2011, 08:34:26 PM »
You see, at least 4>3.5 is mathematically believable.

What's really disturbing is that in D&D editions, 2>3+3.5+4!

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Re: D&D 4th ed > 3.5
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 08:57:14 PM »
It's true! 4 > 3.5! Mathematics hath shown us the light!

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Re: D&D 4th ed > 3.5
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 10:26:00 PM »
Boy howdy I sure do love when people utilize the anonymity of the internet to post what they believe to be shocking statements without context for their beliefs or any supporting arguments to back up their positions! It's certainly a clear indicator of the highest level of intelligence and moral character. My god, this forum needs more of what this young man has to offer!

... alright, that was a bit low. Let me see if I can help salvage this.

So, alright, yes, 4E > 3.5E for certain values of 'greater than'. More consistent and balanced combat system, yes, and relative power level of characters (for the most part) is a much more reliable metric from character to character within the same system. Certainly less of a simulation than 3.X, and without the breadth of options available within. 4E offers many more tactical options on a turn-by-turn basis, but 3.X offers more options, full stop. That 4E is better than 3.5E is certainly not a tautology - they offer different things and appeal to different demographics among gamers. Therefore, sitting here and having an argument over which system is 'better' is ultimately a foolish endeavor - people like different things because people are different from one another, so you're welcome to your opinion, but trying to enforce it or put it forth as the one and only unassailable truth is kind of like trying to explain to a four year old girl who loves the color pink why blue is obviously and completely the superior color. Sure, you can make some damnably good arguments, but you can do that for both sides, so in the end people will give up in frustration or resort to childlike taunts. Neither really seem to fit the candor and general conduct of this forum, so it's probably for the best if we all agree to disagree.

Besides, if we're going by opinion, you're all wrong, it's clearly 3.5E < 4E < Pathfinder. :D

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Re: D&D 4th ed > 3.5
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 10:38:29 PM »
Order 66 has been gone a while, we could use a new forum troll.

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Re: D&D 4th ed > 3.5
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 11:56:10 PM »
3.5E < 4E < Pathfinder. :D

...bitches.

3.5 is kinda like a retard and pathfinder is like retard in a wheelchair. it may go faster downhill but it's still 3.5

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Re: D&D 4th ed > 3.5
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2011, 11:59:28 PM »
Ahahahaha

Trap: Sprung

Yeah, what we got here is a failure to communicate. And a troll. But heeeeeeeeey.

So... in the chance you're not, what exactly does 4E do right for you that 3.5E didn't? What're your preferences when it comes to system?
« Last Edit: March 11, 2011, 12:07:08 AM by SageNytell »

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Re: D&D 4th ed > 3.5
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2011, 12:34:53 AM »
4.0 is better because mathematically challenged GMs like myself can make encounters through easy addition and not advanced algebra.   Also its better because 4.0 was born in America and 3.5 snuck across the border.  3.5 stole the job of 3.0. 
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Re: D&D 4th ed > 3.5
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2011, 12:40:47 AM »
what exactly does 4E do right for you that 3.5E didn't?

everything

though i admit 4th ed needs important sourcebooks like 3.5 had and fast

also seconding what beej said

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Re: D&D 4th ed > 3.5
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2011, 12:59:18 AM »
what exactly does 4E do right for you that 3.5E didn't?

everything

though i admit 4th ed needs important sourcebooks like 3.5 had and fast

also seconding what beej said

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Re: D&D 4th ed > 3.5
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2011, 01:07:59 AM »
just stating the facts, bitches


I'd like to point out that the same day you posted this, the Dalai Lama decided to retire.


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Re: D&D 4th ed > 3.5
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2011, 01:53:40 AM »
Aww. I came too late to the party. : (

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Re: D&D 4th ed > 3.5
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2011, 03:41:20 PM »
My experience with 3.x is limited, but from what I've found in my own play is this: you take penalties for doing something cinematic in combat in 3.X. In 4E every action you take is awesome. As a fighter is 3.x you swing your sword, as a fighter in 4E dance around the battlefield knocking down opponents, calling out the big bad & throw down like a fuckin' hero. Skill challenges are the bomb! This is of course in my limited experience.

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Re: D&D 4th ed > 3.5
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2011, 05:38:59 PM »
My experience with 3.x is limited, but from what I've found in my own play is this: you take penalties for doing something cinematic in combat in 3.X. In 4E every action you take is awesome. As a fighter is 3.x you swing your sword, as a fighter in 4E dance around the battlefield knocking down opponents, calling out the big bad & throw down like a fuckin' hero. Skill challenges are the bomb! This is of course in my limited experience.

doesn't mean you're wrong bro.

also Iron Heroes is the best for cinematic combat. Even better than 4E