3E Balance thread

[clockworkjoe]

all level 1 dudes get full roll on their HP

how far apart do you want to start?

Initiative

Rolling 1d20+6:

(19)+6: Total = 25

[Tadanori Oyama]

So 6 hp

Your first level man, use the full Hit Die.

Addition-
What Ross said.

[clockworkjoe]

All right for my first action, I cast color spray. You are in range and need to make a DC 16 will save.

You have a +1 bonus to will.

[Boyos]

Rolling 1d20:

(: Total = 8

[Boyos]

Im mezmerised!

P.S. Forgot I was a dwarf 13 HP

[clockworkjoe]

You are unconscious for Rolling 2d4:

(1+4): Total = 5

rounds.

Round 1:
I walk over to you.

Round 2:
I coup de grace you for Rolling 2d4-1:

(4+2)-1: Total = 5

x4 damage. I automatically hit and score a critical hit. If the defender survives the damage, he must make a Fortitude save (DC 10 + damage dealt) or die.

[clockworkjoe]

DC 30 fortitude save or you die automatically.

[Boyos]

Rolling 1d20:

(6): Total = 6

COME ON NAT 20!

[Boyos]

I WANT NEW DICE! RED ONES FOR FORT CHECKS PLZ!

[clockworkjoe]

hahaha.

No.

[Mckma]

Yeah with full spells, any spellcaster can pretty much destroy any melee character...

[clockworkjoe]

So, does everyone understand why class balance in 3E sucks?

Now obviously, initiative plays a big role in level 1 duels where characters get downed in a single shot.

But even if he had won initiative he would have to make an attack roll - AC 12 with a +6 bonus (+1 BAB, +1 weapon focus, +2 strength, +2 for charging at least 10 feet)

so a roll of 1-5 would have missed (25%) or 75% to hit.

Then he would have to deal at least 8 damage to knock me down - he does 1d10+2 damage the +2 is from strength

so a 6 or better on a 1d10 - 50%

so to win you need to make 2 rolls, one with a 75% chance of happening and another with a 50% chance of happening.

so according to the probability calculator you have a 37.5% chance of killing me if you won initiative.


Also I just realized you were a dwarf so you only need a 14 or better on the save. But that's only one roll and you only had a 35% chance of making it.

[Boyos]

Wouldent help.

Rolling 1d20:

(12): Total = 12

Rolling 1d10:

(1): Total = 1

Let's see if I could have.

[Boyos]

I would have atleast hit you haha.

[clockworkjoe]

So while the fighter isn't always going to lose, the deck is stacked against him vs spellcasters.